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[ti]SW[/ti]YPG; Yekîneyên Parastina Gel - Western Kurdistan army
Topic Started: 25th November 2012 - 11:14 AM (973,140 Views)
Kurdistano	23rd September 2014 - 09:11 PM Post #1076
Salar Posts: 3,103 Group: Senior Members Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	jjmuneer 23rd September 2014 - 09:09 PM Er this turnt bitter... Guys just chill, look America strike ISIS in Suria, YPG wins. So who cares about credit taking. Wasn't that exactly my words heval. Who cares Well Tevger seems to care about his parties reputation more than Kurdish lives Edited by Kurdistano, 23rd September 2014 - 09:15 PM.



Kurdistano	23rd September 2014 - 09:24 PM Post #1077
Salar Posts: 3,103 Group: Senior Members Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	Now with IS munition destroyed. YPG should take the chance and capture all territories and finally CONNECT the cantons.



Armanc	23rd September 2014 - 10:02 PM Post #1078
Pêşkar Posts: 745 Group: Senior Members Member #237 Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Mood None	Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 08:54 PM As Alan said. YPG has lost dozens of Villages, is split into three cantons, Thousands and thousands of Civilians flee, yet you still keep only talking about success. YPG was good in defending most of Rojava against a much better equipped group, but hell no is that success. Heval it is a success how YPG defends the isolated Kobane against a much bigger force. All international supported armies like the iraqi and syrian army and the FSA would collapse in a isolated small enklave like in Kobane. If PDK Pesmerge would fight like YPG in Kobane they would never lose Sengal.



Kurdistano	23rd September 2014 - 10:23 PM Post #1079
Salar Posts: 3,103 Group: Senior Members Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	Armanc 23rd September 2014 - 10:02 PM Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 08:54 PM As Alan said. YPG has lost dozens of Villages, is split into three cantons, Thousands and thousands of Civilians flee, yet you still keep only talking about success. YPG was good in defending most of Rojava against a much better equipped group, but hell no is that success. Heval it is a success how YPG defends the isolated Kobane against a much bigger force. All international supported armies like the iraqi and syrian army and the FSA would collapse in a isolated small enklave like in Kobane. If PDK Pesmerge would fight like YPG in Kobane they would never lose Sengal. The only reason why Pesh fall in Sengal is the same reason why allot of villages around Tel Abyad and Kobane did. Arab treason + corrupt commanders in Shingal. By all other means Peshmerga were as successfull as YPG or the other way around. Maxmur, Jalawla all of this "retreats" were meant to get the area empty to bomb ISIS on open field. Look I am not denying that YPG did a great job. I even aknowledged it. YPG managed to stand hold to an army much better equipped and against which even Iraq and Syria failed. But this war shouldn't be all about glory and reputation we should take any help possible. Edited by Kurdistano, 24th September 2014 - 12:34 AM.



Zinar	23rd September 2014 - 10:37 PM Post #1080
Xorteki Kurdistani Posts: 2,638 Group: Elite Member #318 Joined: Dec 20, 2013 Mood None	A qonyeyi is teaching a sirnexi kurdishness??!!



Armanc	23rd September 2014 - 10:54 PM Post #1081
Pêşkar Posts: 745 Group: Senior Members Member #237 Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Mood None	Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 10:23 PM Armanc 23rd September 2014 - 10:02 PM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep The only reason why Pesh felt in Sengal is the same reason why allot of villages around Tel Abyad and Kobane did. Arab treason + corrupt commanders in Shingal. By all other means Peshmerga were as successfull as YPG or the other way around. Maxmur, Jalawla all of this "retreats" were meant to get the area empty to bomb ISIS on open field. Look I am not denying that YPG did a great job. I even aknowledged it. YPG managed to stand hold to an army much better equipped and against which even Iraq and Syria failed. But this war shouldn't be all about glory and reputation we should take any help possible. You dont can compare the isolated villages in Koban with Sengal, Zumar, Rabia, Mosul Dam, Qaraqosh, Maxmur and all the hundreds of villages that the PDK Pesmerge left. And we also dont know what would happen with Hewler without US airstrikes. YNK Pesmerge and YPG would not lose Sengal but PDK force would collapse in Kerkûk and Kobane and they would tell us the same excuses like did in Sengal. Edited by Armanc, 23rd September 2014 - 10:59 PM.



Zinar	23rd September 2014 - 10:58 PM Post #1082
Xorteki Kurdistani Posts: 2,638 Group: Elite Member #318 Joined: Dec 20, 2013 Mood None	As armanc said PDK are good in business and they're also the party that is most pro independence but however the PDK fighters cant compete with PUK and YPG but the problem with PUK and YPG is that they're not so pro independence. Edited by Zinar, 23rd September 2014 - 10:58 PM.



Tevger	23rd September 2014 - 11:31 PM Post #1083
Payerdar Posts: 4,100 Group: Elite Member #49 Joined: Feb 1, 2013 Mood None	No no no. All Kurds should flee to Turkey and then we should let USA do the job for us. BIJI AMERIKA! Em pir te sevmish dikin.



Halo	23rd September 2014 - 11:49 PM Post #1084
Têkoşer Posts: 5,589 Group: Senior Members Member #36 Joined: Jan 9, 2013 Mood None	YPG: 124 ISIS killed last 24 hours [prior US/Coalition] attacks. 84 at different fronts in Kobane & 40 around Mabrukah. #TwitterKurds #Syria



kurdo82	24th September 2014 - 12:01 AM Post #1085
Pêşkar Posts: 897 Group: Elite Member #441 Joined: Jul 3, 2014 Mood None	Tevger 23rd September 2014 - 08:19 PM Yeah, great. Once again USA gets the honour of ''defeating'' ISIS. YPG would have defeated them eventually. At least, as Kurds, we should stop spreading this USA propaganda bullshit. Just like when Peshmerga and YPG rescued the Ezidis on the mountain and suddenly USA gets all the credits because of some bombing. For this exact reason, the YPG SHOULD NOT aknowledge the bombings. If they aknowledge it, they also aknowledge that USA defeated ISIS and not The Kurdish people. Bra. Thats the way turks and arabs think. They need to understand that we seek a strategic partnership and that we will benefit them and not betray them like the turks did. The u.s sent turkey a clear message that they wont accept their buffer zone plan deciding to accept kurdish rule in syria. The us is pleased with the ability of the YPG to fend off the islamists. They waited desperatly for the momentum created by ypg. Nobody is taking away the credit of ypg. The PYD asked for help now its there. Accept it as a gift.



Kurdistano	24th September 2014 - 12:23 AM Post #1086
Salar Posts: 3,103 Group: Senior Members Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	Armanc 23rd September 2014 - 10:54 PM Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 10:23 PM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep You dont can compare the isolated villages in Koban with Sengal, Zumar, Rabia, Mosul Dam, Qaraqosh, Maxmur and all the hundreds of villages that the PDK Pesmerge left. And we also dont know what would happen with Hewler without US airstrikes. YNK Pesmerge and YPG would not lose Sengal but PDK force would collapse in Kerkûk and Kobane and they would tell us the same excuses like did in Sengal. Heval Shingal is very much isolated too. Shingal from south from West from East as well from North is surrounded by Arab villages. Edited by Kurdistano, 24th September 2014 - 12:33 AM.



Qandil	24th September 2014 - 12:25 AM Post #1087
Posts: 4,880 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Nov 20, 2012 Mood None	Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 09:03 PM Tevger a boy from Konya is the last person who should start telling me, a person from Sernex what Kurdishness is. First try to get your people become Patriotic and than come back here and tell me more jokes. Did you understand? Or let me talk in your "Kurdish" Te "anlamish" kir? You are paranoid dude. You made a reputation game out of a single comment like "US and allies started to attack IS in Syria" which actually all of Rojava asked for. There was not a single word inside of this statement which gave to it any positive or negative value. Why do you degrade proud and patriotic Anatolians with your stupid comment, based on a discussion with one person?



Kurdistano	24th September 2014 - 12:31 AM Post #1088
Salar Posts: 3,103 Group: Senior Members Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	kurdo82 24th September 2014 - 12:01 AM Tevger 23rd September 2014 - 08:19 PM Yeah, great. Once again USA gets the honour of ''defeating'' ISIS. YPG would have defeated them eventually. At least, as Kurds, we should stop spreading this USA propaganda bullshit. Just like when Peshmerga and YPG rescued the Ezidis on the mountain and suddenly USA gets all the credits because of some bombing. For this exact reason, the YPG SHOULD NOT aknowledge the bombings. If they aknowledge it, they also aknowledge that USA defeated ISIS and not The Kurdish people. Bra. Thats the way turks and arabs think. They need to understand that we seek a strategic partnership and that we will benefit them and not betray them like the turks did. The u.s sent turkey a clear message that they wont accept their buffer zone plan deciding to accept kurdish rule in syria. The us is pleased with the ability of the YPG to fend off the islamists. They waited desperatly for the momentum created by ypg. Nobody is taking away the credit of ypg. The PYD asked for help now its there. Accept it as a gift. Thats what hard headed people don't understand we are not in the position to piss of any major power, we should actually try to portrait ourselfes as good "allies". This is exactly what Turks, Arabs and Persians fear this is why you see Turks permanently making comments which show us looking anti Western. This is why they brainwash our people into believing the West is all about NWO and all that Illuminati shizz while at the same time in Western Turkey they show themselves as "very moderate" people. They are playing a double faced game and people like my friend from Konya here don't get that. We don't need to praise the West but we should stop playing all that conspiracy nonsense because at the end of the day it doesn't help us but only make us look like backward idiots beliving every shizz. If the West helps us good thing why argue about help? Edited by Kurdistano, 24th September 2014 - 12:37 AM.



Zinar	24th September 2014 - 12:31 AM Post #1089
Xorteki Kurdistani Posts: 2,638 Group: Elite Member #318 Joined: Dec 20, 2013 Mood None	Qandil 24th September 2014 - 12:25 AM Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 09:03 PM Tevger a boy from Konya is the last person who should start telling me, a person from Sernex what Kurdishness is. First try to get your people become Patriotic and than come back here and tell me more jokes. Did you understand? Or let me talk in your "Kurdish" Te "anlamish" kir? You are paranoid dude. You made a reputation game out of a single comment like "US and allies started to attack IS in Syria" which actually all of Rojava asked for. There was not a single word inside of this statement which gave to it any positive or negative value. Why do you degrade proud and patriotic Anatolians with your stupid comment, based on a discussion with one person? Regionalist.



jjmuneer	24th September 2014 - 12:36 AM Post #1090
KSS Salar Posts: 8,615 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	What's the point of saying "regionalist" every time someone talks about their hometown or region?



Zinar	24th September 2014 - 12:45 AM Post #1091
Xorteki Kurdistani Posts: 2,638 Group: Elite Member #318 Joined: Dec 20, 2013 Mood None	jjmuneer 24th September 2014 - 12:36 AM What's the point of saying "regionalist" every time someone talks about their hometown or region?



Ali Alqosh	24th September 2014 - 01:18 AM Post #1092
Serheng Posts: 1,971 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 09:03 PM Tevger a boy from Konya is the last person who should start telling me, a person from Sernex what Kurdishness is. First try to get your people become Patriotic and than come back here and tell me more jokes. Did you understand? Or let me talk in your "Kurdish" Te "anlamish" kir? You are paranoid dude. You made a reputation game out of a single comment like "US and allies started to attack IS in Syria" which actually all of Rojava asked for. There was not a single word inside of this statement which gave to it any positive or negative value. Hahahhahaahaha! Te anlamosh kir this is sotrue and had me laughing so hard



Zinar	24th September 2014 - 01:20 AM Post #1093
Xorteki Kurdistani Posts: 2,638 Group: Elite Member #318 Joined: Dec 20, 2013 Mood None	Stop making fun of my qonyeyi and anatolian brothers, the qonyeyis are the heart of kurdistan they will fly the banner of KURDISTAN IN MIDDLE OF ANATOLIA HER BIJI HER BIJI HER BIJI!



Ali Alqosh	24th September 2014 - 01:24 AM Post #1094
Serheng Posts: 1,971 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Qandil 24th September 2014 - 12:25 AM Kurdistano 23rd September 2014 - 09:03 PM Tevger a boy from Konya is the last person who should start telling me, a person from Sernex what Kurdishness is. First try to get your people become Patriotic and than come back here and tell me more jokes. Did you understand? Or let me talk in your "Kurdish" Te "anlamish" kir? You are paranoid dude. You made a reputation game out of a single comment like "US and allies started to attack IS in Syria" which actually all of Rojava asked for. There was not a single word inside of this statement which gave to it any positive or negative value. Why do you degrade proud and patriotic Anatolians with your stupid comment, based on a discussion with one person? anlamis is turkish and is the result of assimilation. Dont say that anatolian kurds talk like that



Armanc	24th September 2014 - 01:48 AM Post #1095
Pêşkar Posts: 745 Group: Senior Members Member #237 Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Mood None	Kurdistano 24th September 2014 - 12:23 AM Heval Shingal is very much isolated too. Shingal from south from West from East as well from North is surrounded by Arab villages. So PDK Pesmerge withdrawn its forces because of arab villages? Good that PDK is not in charge of Kerkûk because there are more arabs and YNK Pesmerge there dont use any excuse to left the area. So if PDK can not protect Kurdish areas with ''arab villages'' they should give the control in these areas to the Pesmerge ministry or to the YNK Pesmerge and PDK should concentrate itself only on politics. And Sengal was not isolated before PDK left it like Kobane is. Edited by Armanc, 24th September 2014 - 01:59 AM.



Zagros	24th September 2014 - 01:49 AM Post #1096
Salar Posts: 3,495 Group: Elite Member #235 Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Mood None	Video of Kurds who stormed a Turkish border post yesterday and entered Kobanê to join YPG.



kurdo82	24th September 2014 - 01:55 AM Post #1097
Pêşkar Posts: 897 Group: Elite Member #441 Joined: Jul 3, 2014 Mood None	Shengal was possible out of two reasons. A coward being the leader of the kdp branch running away and lack of coordination by the peshmerga. They couldnt switch their tactic once the front fell they werent able to reorganize their forces and switching to ambush tactics. The ypg made this perfectly.



Zagros	24th September 2014 - 02:09 AM Post #1098
Salar Posts: 3,495 Group: Elite Member #235 Joined: Sep 8, 2013 Mood None	PYD Leader Salih Moslem on US Air Strikes against ISIS in Syria In this brief interview Salih Moslem, Cochair of PYD express his party’s position on US and coalition air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria. Mr. Moslem says they consider these attacks a positive step for the fight against ISIS. “I spoke with many Kurds in Syria. They are happy about the attacks because they see that they are not alone in their fight against ISIS. Moslem states that as Syrian Kurds they would like to be a part of this effort too. http://civiroglu.net/2014/09/23/pyd_airstrikes/



Qandil	24th September 2014 - 02:49 AM Post #1099
Posts: 4,880 Group: Moderators Member #4 Joined: Nov 20, 2012 Mood None	Ali Alqosh 24th September 2014 - 01:24 AM Qandil 24th September 2014 - 12:25 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep anlamis is turkish and is the result of assimilation. Dont say that anatolian kurds talk like that It's because we have lived for over 300 years with Turks, and of course the Kemalist campaign. It's obvious that our language is assimilated, but we are still very proud Kurds. In whole of Scandinavia, Anatolians probably donated the most to the PKK. So that's our excuse: being in the center of Turkey. Can the same be said about e.g. your grandfather? He who lives in the heart of Kurdistan, surrounded by Kurds? I don't think so. You should be the last one to ever degrade Kurdish Anatolians.



Ali Alqosh	24th September 2014 - 04:24 AM Post #1100
Serheng Posts: 1,971 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Qandil 24th September 2014 - 02:49 AM Ali Alqosh 24th September 2014 - 01:24 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep It's because we have lived for over 300 years with Turks, and of course the Kemalist campaign. It's obvious that our language is assimilated, but we are still very proud Kurds. In whole of Scandinavia, Anatolians probably donated the most to the PKK. So that's our excuse: being in the center of Turkey. Can the same be said about e.g. your grandfather? He who lives in the heart of Kurdistan, surrounded by Kurds? I don't think so. You should be the last one to ever degrade Kurdish Anatolians. What the fk are you talking about? I'm an anatolian Kurd and my grandfather can speak kurdish. Our village is surrounded by turkish villages. Since when is meleti the heart of Kurdistan? EDIT: Anatolian Kurds USED to be the pride and proudest of Kurds.. Edited by Ali Alqosh**, 24th September 2014 - 04:25 AM.



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