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Topic Started: 18th November 2012 - 07:31 PM (1,267,055 Views)
AlanJunior
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PYD withdraw for the same reason KDP did. Most importantly lack of heavy weapons and less importantly low ammo. You can have all the light ammo in the world but it will simply bounce off a humvee or tank. The fact the KDP only recently sent heavy weapons to the front suggests that although they have large quantities they were not operational.. only recently after Eastern European countries sent spare parts did they become operational. We need to send 20 tanks, MRAPs and shells. Man power isnt going to destroy their armour. Just 1000 elite troops backed by heavy weapons and hopefully Milans and we can slowly but surely push through to Kobane.
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AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:11 AM
PYD withdraw for the same reason KDP did. Most importantly lack of heavy weapons and less importantly low ammo. You can have all the light ammo in the world but it will simply bounce off a humvee or tank. The fact the KDP only recently sent heavy weapons to the front suggests that although they have large quantities they were not operational.. only recently after Eastern European countries sent spare parts did they become operational. We need to send 20 tanks, MRAPs and shells. Man power isnt going to destroy their armour. Just 1000 elite troops backed by heavy weapons and hopefully Milans and we can slowly but surely push through to Kobane.
Where is the withdrawing source?
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Pker2theend
21st September 2014 - 05:09 AM
AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:05 AM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/200920142
YPG did not leave kobane, if they leave and pdk does not use media against them, then I will give props.
They did not but credible sources confirmed that ISIS is only some kms away from Kobane city. Media wars are not going to help. What I said in my post above will.
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Pker2theend
21st September 2014 - 05:12 AM
AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:11 AM
PYD withdraw for the same reason KDP did. Most importantly lack of heavy weapons and less importantly low ammo. You can have all the light ammo in the world but it will simply bounce off a humvee or tank. The fact the KDP only recently sent heavy weapons to the front suggests that although they have large quantities they were not operational.. only recently after Eastern European countries sent spare parts did they become operational. We need to send 20 tanks, MRAPs and shells. Man power isnt going to destroy their armour. Just 1000 elite troops backed by heavy weapons and hopefully Milans and we can slowly but surely push through to Kobane.
Where is the withdrawing source?
I meant from villages around kobane.
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AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:13 AM
Pker2theend
21st September 2014 - 05:09 AM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/200920142
They did not but credible sources confirmed that ISIS is only some kms away from Kobane city. Media wars are not going to help. What I said in my post above will.
difference between kobane and shengal is YPG says they have barely ammo yet still fights to the end, KDP doesnt say anything, barely evacuates anyone and then after they leave say we ran out of ammo
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counter attack has begun! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map
we will be victorious!
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AlanJunior
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UKurd
21st September 2014 - 05:15 AM
AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:13 AM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deephttp://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/200920142
difference between kobane and shengal is YPG says they have barely ammo yet still fights to the end, KDP doesnt say anything, barely evacuates anyone and then after they leave say we ran out of ammo
You just cant help yourself can you. KDP didnt want to admit it but I know a few generals. Lets just say many pesh died before they left. In a video a Pesh outpost in rabia still has blood stains of the Pesh that was there. Rise above this stupidity. I can mock the PYD too now but as a sane logical person I know that little could have been done to defend those 60 villages.
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Xoybun
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21st September 2014 - 05:18 AM
counter attack has begun! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map
we will be victorious!
Resistance has only begun in Sere Kaniye
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Karker
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This is not the time. However I will say this. The bravery and willingness to die that YPG has shown in their short history I have never seen anywhere else. 5 YPJ martyrs committed suicide once they were surrounded by IS rats as to not get captured. Apocis have that sort of reputation: "We'd rather die than be captured".
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Xoybun
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21st September 2014 - 05:23 AM
This is not the time. However I will say this. The bravery and willingness to die that YPG has shown in their short history I have never seen anywhere else. 5 YPJ martyrs committed suicide once they were surrounded by IS rats as to not get captured. Apocis have that sort of reputation: "We'd rather die than be captured".
Self-martyring is quite common in these situations. Not only YPG, but women all over Kurdistan do it when they know they will get captured.
Edited by Xoybun, 21st September 2014 - 05:33 AM.
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"United States is considering sending arms to Syrian Kurds" - U.S. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff #TwitterKurds
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21st September 2014 - 06:10 AM
"United States is considering sending arms to Syrian Kurds" - U.S. Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff #TwitterKurds
Fake as shizz. USA won't do a shizz for WK. They are only acting, speaking.
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Zagros
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New petition on supporting Rojava with humanitarian and military support to prevent another human tragedy and to stop Islamic State:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/provide-syrian-kurds-humanitarian-and-military-support-prevent-another-human-tragedy-and-stop/RQQndCpg

Edited by Zagros, 21st September 2014 - 07:29 AM.
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AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:11 AM
PYD withdraw for the same reason KDP did.
You really want to compare Sengal with Kobane?

Okey let us compare it, Kobane is isolated but YPG is still fighting there. But PDK Pesmerge left Sengal, Rabia, Zumar, Mosul Dam and Maxmur without fighting.

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not looking good

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Zagros
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all front is calm NOW HEAVY TENSION BTN #ISIS IN TULABYAD #YPG ADVANCE FRM #SEREKANYE.

BREAKING #isis WITHDRAW ITS force FROM E-KOBANI TO slouk city and kantary

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Islamic State closing in on Kurds in Rojava

Kurdish enclave in northern Syria has fought off regime forces and jihadists for two years; but against well-armed Islamic State, Kurdish fighters face possibility of disastrous defeat.

By Carl Drott Sep. 21, 2014

The Kurdish town of Kobani (Ayn al-Arab) in northern Syria has come under serious threat from the militants of Islamic State in the past few days. For over two years, the armed group called the People’s Protection Units (YPG) has kept out both regime forces and attacking jihadists, but this time it is facing the possibility of a disastrous defeat.

The Kurdish enclave is surrounded on three sides by IS, which has cut off the water and electricity supply for several months now. Turkey had been keeping its border tightly sealed on the fourth side, but opened it on Friday and an estimated 60,000 Syrian Kurds fled into the country in the space of 24 hours.

IS militants had launched serious attacks against Kobani during the spring, and their efforts to capture the enclave intensified further in July. In the evening of Monday September 15, their latest and seemingly most determined assault began.

In a rare visit to the Kobani enclave exactly two weeks before the current clashes broke out, your correspondent could witness preparations taking place for the next round of fighting.

Standing on a dusty football pitch, a group of 150 mostly middle-aged and older men line up in a square formation, their faces expressing silent defiance and determination. They form a sort of home guard unit, which is in the first instance supposed to relieve YPG and the Asayish (local police force) from routine duties behind the lines. However, if needed, they will themselves go to the frontlines to fight.

Most of the volunteers belong to the “Unit of the Martyr Mustafa,” named after a fighter who was buried earlier that day. His beheaded corpse was found in a shallow grave when YPG retook the hill where he was killed a few weeks ago. A former political prisoner of the Syrian regime, who suffered permanent injuries from severe torture, Mustafa joined YPG last year.

A few women have formed a separate unit, called the “Unit of the Martyr Jin,” named after a young female fighter who fell during the spring. Her mother, Samira, is now serving in the unit that bears her daughter’s name. “I was a law student in Aleppo,” says a young woman standing beside her, “but IS killed my father.”

With IS advancing at a rapid pace, these volunteers are almost certainly now on the frontlines.

Reinforcements from PKK

From a hilltop overlooking the river Euphrates, a YPG fighter scans the enemy-held villages beneath through her binoculars. Her name is Sorkhun and, despite being no more than 24, she is already a veteran, having joined the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) at the age of 14 and served in its armed wing.

Sorkhun was born here in Syria. After almost a decade “in the mountains,” she returned in June 2013 to join YPG. At first, she fought in her hometown of Serekaniye (Ras al-Ayn) and many other places in the northeastern Jazira region, before she came to Kobani in early February this year.

Not only have increasingly large numbers of PKK veterans like Sorkhun come back to fight. Previously civilian Kurdish youths from Turkey have also crossed the border in large numbers to get military training and defend the area. Place names like Serekaniye and Kobani have now become rallying cries for Kurds everywhere. “We are calling for the unity of the Kurdish people, as well as all the other communities living here,” says Sorkhun.

At a time when sectarian hatred and violence is engulfing the whole region, the secular PKK has established itself as one of the most formidable fighting forces facing the IS threat and defending threatened communities, both in Syria and Iraq. Nevertheless, the PKK is still designated as a terrorist organization by the EU, United States and Turkey.

Last month, PKK fighters joined forces with YPG to rescue thousands of Yazidi Kurds from a mountain in KRG. Otherwise, those trapped there would in all likelihood have died of thirst, been massacred or taken as slaves by IS. “When Shingal was attacked, we simply had to come down to help them,” says Sorkhun. “If anyone asks for our help we will come.”

Fall of Kobani?

In infantry combat, YPG has proven itself to be far superior to IS. Well disciplined, motivated and willing to risk their lives without being eager to die, YPG fighters had been holding back the suicidal mass charges of their opponents.

However, in the ongoing fighting around Kobani, IS has a couple of advantages that may prove decisive. After it looted new supplies from the Iraqi army this summer, IS now has wide access to rocket artillery, heavy mortars, 23 and 57 mm. auto-cannons, as well as tanks. YPG has makeshift armored personnel carriers, outdated assault rifles and machine guns, and suffers an acute lack of heavy and advanced weaponry. Furthermore, unlike YPG, IS can easily resupply and call in reinforcements from elsewhere.

Unlike the South Kurdistan in Iraq, Kobani can count on neither air strikes nor weapons deliveries from the West. The provisional civilian government in the enclave, which was proclaimed in January, has repeatedly called for support from countries worldwide, mentioning in particular the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Russia – as well as the South Kurdistan of Iraq.

“The outside world has to help us here,” said Idris Nassan, the deputy foreign minister of the enclave government, in a recent interview. “Because IS will ultimately threaten everyone.”

While Massoud Barzani, the president of the South Kurdistan of Iraq, has spoken out in support of Kobani, the question is whether substantial help of the right kind can arrive in time – and who will supply it. The most obvious hindrance was Turkey’s refusal to let anyone across the border, but that has now changed.

Over 20 villages have already fallen to IS and hundreds of people are reported missing, possibly in IS hands. If something is not done very soon, it is looking increasingly likely that Kobani will fall.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.616891
Edited by Zagros, 21st September 2014 - 09:11 AM.
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ALAN
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Has YPG recaptured any villages in Kobani? i doubt it, bcos IS is using heavy weapons there vs AKs, the villages getting freed is from Aleppo and Sare Kaniya.... not Kobani :(

Alanj the withdrawal of PDK commanders is all clear to us, there was no ammo issue, why else would Pres. Barzani put the commanders on a military trial?
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ALAN
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PKK reaches Kobani, but how? :shrug:

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Xorteki Kurdistani
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21st September 2014 - 08:24 AM
AlanJunior
21st September 2014 - 05:11 AM
PYD withdraw for the same reason KDP did.
You really want to compare Sengal with Kobane?

Okey let us compare it, Kobane is isolated but YPG is still fighting there. But PDK Pesmerge left Sengal, Rabia, Zumar, Mosul Dam and Maxmur without fighting.

Her biji kurdistani armanc youre a honest man.
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Zinar
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No pesh and no pkk have entered kobani even if they have theyre probably fighting in Serekanye, also shame on pdk, who the fk cares if pyd gives green lights or not?!!! If kurds are in danger you should go there and defend kurds in danger, pdk proved they dont want to help kobane. Also if pesh wants to become a major power in NK WK they need to stop see wk nk as properties of pkk.
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Anti-terrorism forces (DT) await orders to enter the western Kurdistan

An informed source said, that the anti-terrorism forces on standby to enter the western city of Kurdistan and the protect Kobanî.

The source said the evening Saturday, 09/20/2014, during a special permit for PUKmedia: "after the special force of counter-terrorism reaching the border between the South Kurdistan and western Kurdistan to help protect city of Kobanî, they are now waiting for offical orders to move and enter the western Kurdistan".

The source from the special anti-terrorism forces has told PUKmedia: "The strength of the special counter-terrorism in Sulaimani entered on high alert in preparation for the move and the entry to western Kurdistan in order to help the YPG troops in the Kurdish city of Kobani in their war against the terrorist elements of al Daash".

http://pukmedia.com/KS_Direje.aspx?Jimare=35751
http://pukmedia.com/AR_Direje.aspx?Jimare=42007

Its official, KF
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PUK Political Bureau Releases Statement on Besieging Kubani by ISIL

19/9/2014 12:55:00

PUK Political Bureau released a statement on besieging Kubani by ISIL for the past days. Here is the script of the statement:

Dear Honored people of Kurdistan,
The countries that show support to Kurdistan,
Iraqi and Kurdistani forces,
Kubani city has been under extensive attacks of ISIS using all kinds of heavy weaponry, and the city center of Kubani is gravely bombed which inflicted on massive injuries to the people and caused serious damages to the city. Consequently, dozens of residents have been injured and martyred. Humanitarian disaster is even expected to occur in the city.
This assault is coincided with, fortunately, the decision by the United States and western states to attack ISIL everywhere. Kubani is a city in West Kurdistan, and it is obviously massacred by ISIS in the eyes of the countries.
Therefore, PUK calls on the Security Council, the U.S. and western states to swiftly take actions to safeguard the city from the terrorists ofISISand deliver humanitarian aid to its people.
Furthermore, we call on the Iraq, Islamic Republic of Iran and Turkeyto assist those brave fighters who defend the Kubani city and deliver the humanitarian aid to the city residents.
In spite of the involvement of the Peshmerga forces in their war against ISIS, the Kurdistan Regional Government must reach out to residents of the city since we are all aware of what essential role the western struggles have played during the catastrophe of Shangal (Sinjar).
We salute the people of Kubani for their courage and determination.
We salute the protectors of Kubani.
We salute the martyrs of Kubani

Media Statement of
PUK Political Bureau

http://pukmedia.com/EN/EN_Direje.aspx?Jimare=21739
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Fire
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Like I expected. Many of the Kurdish refugees want to go back to WK but the Turks are attacking them on the border with police and soldiers and trying to prevent it.

The turkish plan of de-Kurdification of Rojava has come into open.
Edited by Fire, 21st September 2014 - 06:15 PM.
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