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| Topic Started: 18th November 2012 - 07:31 PM (2,002,107 Views) | |
| Fire | 13th November 2013 - 06:29 AM Post #6226 |
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This means, Liberalism at his best + Socialist components.
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| Sarkachal | 13th November 2013 - 06:34 AM Post #6227 |
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Plus a lot green points are not shown on the map yet, because they are small villages...so they get added to the map when they are liberated or fighting starts there.. Most the green points is near Azaz which is extremely hard to take over...even tal abyad is hard to liberate...because these areas are full with arabs.. The most kurdish areas have been liberated, and we just have to wait for them to take over the rest bit by bit.. They haven't really declared autonomy, they say interim administration, to play it safe.. they can't set up a autonomous region in a few days..this takes time..and they are doing pretty well until now.. They would've liberated more areas, if the peshmerga could enter, but this brings other problems...and I don't want to turn it in that discussion again 
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| purearch72 | 13th November 2013 - 06:34 AM Post #6228 |
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So federal and provincial governments? No municipal? |
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| Tevger | 13th November 2013 - 06:44 AM Post #6229 |
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Every village has a '' Mala Gel'' gathering. I dont think there are municipals as such in Rojava. Just a lot of villages and a couple of big cities. |
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| Sarkachal | 13th November 2013 - 06:52 AM Post #6230 |
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YPG librated 5 vilages now including wheat place (Silo) If it keeps going like this, they will liberate the whole area of haskah! amazing! EDIT: Rêdûr xelîl: In South of Terbspah in the following villages Tall aed,Rbeaa ,Raha, Awena there are heavy clashes betw YPG&mercenaries takfirist groups.
Edited by Sarkachal, 13th November 2013 - 06:59 AM.
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| Kurdistano | 13th November 2013 - 07:57 AM Post #6231 |
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This means the system is based on Switzerland? As I said the best solution for all is a Central or North European like system. Switzerland is fine. Other systems are for my taste too company or state orientated.
Edited by Kurdistano, 13th November 2013 - 08:00 AM.
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| Kurdistano | 13th November 2013 - 07:59 AM Post #6232 |
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you have to take into account, that the last several defeats have given the ISIS and Nusra a high moral damage. allot of them probably start to run when they hear YPG is on it's way |
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| Tevger | 13th November 2013 - 08:07 AM Post #6233 |
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We will have to see in the future how it will work out. In order for this sytem to work, there would have to be set up some social re arrangements and a distribution of state wealth and goods. We need the oil production, the olive production, the grain production and the cattle production to be swift again. This will take some time. All the future difficult tasks could be easened up if PKK and KRG finds a middle ground. A middle ground that hopefully decreases Turkey's influence as much as possible.
Edited by Tevger, 13th November 2013 - 08:08 AM.
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| Tevger | 13th November 2013 - 08:23 AM Post #6234 |
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Generally, in terms of economy, Rojava's future looks bright with many possibilities. A lot of oil, gas and fertile agricultural fields.   
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| Zagros | 13th November 2013 - 08:45 AM Post #6235 |
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In South of Terbspah in the following villages Tall Aed,Rbeaa ,Raha, Awena there are heavy clashes betw YPG & mercenaries takfirist groups. |
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| Brendar | 13th November 2013 - 10:08 AM Post #6236 |
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Map of Kurdistan Regional Government - Syria. Also known as Western Kurdistan (ENGLISH) or Kurdistana Rojava (KURDISH).
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| Brendar | 13th November 2013 - 10:09 AM Post #6237 |
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KNN - Kurdistan Regional Government - Syria
Edited by Brendar, 13th November 2013 - 10:09 AM.
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| Kurdistano | 13th November 2013 - 11:30 AM Post #6238 |
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I hope somehow to add another strip to this as a fourth kanton of "idlib" which reaches all the way to the Mediterranean shore. |
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| Hayder-Kurdistani | 13th November 2013 - 11:39 AM Post #6239 |
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https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1237059_415655671879381_565832771_n.jpg This is a realistic map of WK
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| ALAN | 13th November 2013 - 11:43 AM Post #6240 |
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NRT report on WK |
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| Kurdistano | 13th November 2013 - 11:57 AM Post #6241 |
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For now, but the sea port should never be out of our agenda. The war is still not over and YPG needs to try. We need to find a solution to our dependence on hostile countries. |
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| purearch72 | 13th November 2013 - 12:06 PM Post #6242 |
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Syrian Kurdish Party declares transitional government The Democratic Union Party (PYD), affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), on Monday, Nov. 11, announced from the unofficial Syrian Kurdish capital of Qamishli that it would form an interim transitional administration, despite objections from Turkey. The plan is based on a PYD project announced in July 2013, that would include the formation of a interim government, elections and a constitution. The Kurdish parties from Syria were holding meetings with Kurds, Arabs, Christians, and Chechens, to discuss the project. The announcement comes after the People’s Defense Units (YPG) made several military gains in the province of Hasakah and captured the Iraqi border crossing in Yaroubiya on Oct. 24. Alan Semo, a representative of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) based in London, told Al-Monitor by email that the YPG capture has the aim “to establish the self-rule of the region's people and serve the region's multi- ethnic communities.” The announcement of the PYD came on the same day as the Syrian opposition group, the Syrian National Coalition, announced their provisional government for rebel-held areas, which doesn’t include members of the Kurdish nationalist parties. A member of the Syrian National Coalition, Bassam Yousef, in a statement to Al Arabiya, denounced the PYD announcement, suggesting it could risk the partitioning of Syria, and was inappropriate before the fall of the regime. Nevertheless, Fuad Aliko, a member of the Kurdish Unity party, told Al-Monitor from Qamishli that Ahmed Jarba, the head of the Syrian National Coalition, is willing to negotiate about the project, and send a message to the Kurdish parties from Syria. Hekem Xelo, member of the Rojava General Assembly, told the Kurdish news agency Hawar on Tuesday, "Based on the project, Rojava regions [Kurdish areas of Syria] were divided into three cantons — al-Jazeera [Hasakah province], Efrin and Kobani [Ayn al-Arab]. Each will have its own council represented in the general council." Xelo added that a 55-member committee was formed to follow up on the implementation of the project. He also indicated that the interim council will be tasked with monitoring the process of drafting local electoral laws, preparing for general elections and promulgating laws, in addition to following up on political, military, security and economic affairs. The main Kurdish blocs, the Kurdish National Council, formed with the support of Masoud Barzani, the president of the South Kurdistan of Iraq in October 2011, and the People’s Council of West Kurdistan, close to the PYD and the PKK, reached an agreement in September 2013 to form the interim administration. However, despite the formation of a committee in Qamishli consisting of five members of the KNC, and five members from PYD-affiliated organizations, many disagreements remained. Many members of the KNC point out that the Syrian government is still present in the cities of Hasakah and Qamishli, and pays the salaries of many employees in institutions, and that therefore forming an administration is difficult. “The success of this project depends on the withdrawal of the regime,” said Sabri Mirza, a member of the Kurdish Unity party in Qamishli. Especially, the Kurdish Democratic Party of Syria (KDP-S), directly affiliated to the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Massoud Barzani, is very critical of the project, and thinks the project by the PYD would legitimate the armed PYD control over the Kurdish regions. The KDP-S fears they cannot make any electoral gains in a system controlled by PYD militias, although the PYD says international observers would be observing any elections in the future. This despite that in neighboring South Kurdistan of Iraq, elections are also held under the control of Kurdish security forces, either loyal to Barzani, the main supporter of the KDP-S, or Jalal Talabani, the president of Iraq, and leader of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. KDP-S member Mohammed Ismail, based in Qamishli, told Al-Monitor he is worried: “We have discussed this with other components of this region, Assyrians, Arabs most of them, who support the regime accept this project, but those who are with the Syrian revolution don’t support this.” Therefore, he, and the KDP-S leader Abdulhakim Bashar say this project is impossible with the presence of the regime. “They just want to be those who administrate the region. About this project, we think it doesn’t match the reality we live in. The regime still exists,” Mohammed Ismail told Al-Monitor in Qamishli. In Erbil, KDP-S leader Abdulhakim Bashar told Al-Monitor, “You can have a temporary administration for the daily life [in non-controlled regime areas]. But even in this case, you cannot manage it alone [without paying salaries].” It seems that. therefore, the PYD moved forward without the KNC, especially since the Syrian National Coalition on Monday accepted the KNC's joining the Syrian opposition bloc. Still, no KNC member was part of the new provisional government formed by the coalition. Zara Salah, a member of the Kurdish Unity party, based in the United Kingdom, told Al-Monitor, “Only the PYD has announced this, and no party from the KNC.” Earlier, PYD leader Salih Muslim told Al-Monitor from Qamishli that the PYD would form a kind of local administration as part of the self-ruling project they had in 2007 in cooperation with other ethnic communities. “You know it will be temporary, until a final solution is reached for Syria,” he said. On Tuesday, KDP-S member Mohammed Ismail told the Kurdish news organization Rudaw that the People’s Council of West Kurdistan “haven’t accepted the demands of the KNC,” and that they wanted to form a transitional administration without the KNC. Ismail hopes that on Thursday, in a meeting of the Supreme Kurdish Council they will solve the problems between the KNC and the PYD. Despite their many differences, the KNC and the PYD managed to meet on Monday as part of the Supreme Kurdish Council, which was formed as part of a PYD-KNC agreement with the support of the KRG Kurds in July 2012, but that didn’t meet for several months as a result of the tensions between the Barzani and the PKK. On Thursday, the Kurdish parties will discuss their problems, with the PYD accusing some KNC members of supporting attacks against the YPG, while some KNC-members accuse the PYD of trying to rule over them by force. Although Syrian Kurdish parties disagree on many issues, all of them agree on some form of self-governance. So it will remain possible that they will reach an agreement. But in the end, the PYD will decide whether they will do their project with or without the KNC, since they control all the Kurdish areas on the ground. The YPG is the only militia that is capable of holding ground and fights off al-Qaeda-affiliated groups, which led to more support for the PYD among not only Syria’s Kurds, but also local Arabs and Christians. Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/11/syria-kurds-government-plan-wilgenburg.html#ixzz2kUHHWLpQ |
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| Sarkachal | 13th November 2013 - 07:46 PM Post #6243 |
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Cleaning campaign started! YPG destroy 2 Al Qaeda vehicles south of TirbeSpiye, Al Qaeda sent reinforcement to the fronts. YPG captures 4 Al Qaeda members in farms south of TirbeSpiye. 16 villages liberated since YPG started an operation against AQ south of Tirbesiye yesterday evening. List of villages: 1.Mihemed Diyab 2. Mirr 3.Sofiya 4. Taya 5. Mezlûma 6. Ribêda 7. Mihemediyê 8. Riheya biçûk 9. Xirbê Sim 10. Xirbê Cihaş 11. Huriyat 12. Huriyat a Jêrîn 13. Huriyat a Jorîn 14. Um Kirênat 15. Nebbûa 16. Zahîriyê some Al Qaeda groups fleeing towards Hassake. In TerbspahYPG liberated the following villages: Sofia -Mir- Owainat -Tal Aed- Mahmoudia-Bawarah-small Rahia -Rahia-Al-Zahreah-Mohamed Diab Preparation of a Western Kurdistan Legislature http://pydrojava.net/eng/index.php/news/110-preparation-of-a-western-kurdistan-legislature |
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| jjmuneer | 13th November 2013 - 07:52 PM Post #6244 |
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We should adopt a similar economic model to that of Sweden, Denmark and Norway. |
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| Zagros | 13th November 2013 - 11:39 PM Post #6245 |
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Rojava Public Order administration vows to increase security measures ANF - Qamishlo 13.11.2013 13:39:51 The general administration of Rojava Public Order has vowed to increase security measures in a statement it has released in response to Monday's Kobani explosion which left 14 civilians dead, including four children, and many others wounded. The statement underlined that the Kobani attack targeted the Kurdish Red Crescent “Heyva Sor a Kurd”. Rojava Public Order administration remarked that dark forces including the ISIL and the al-Nusra Front were carrying out coward attacks targeting civilians since they suffered heavy losses in clashes with YPG (People's Defense Units) fighters in Girê Spi, west Serêkaniyê, Til Koçer and Til Elo. The statement called on local residents to support public order units in order for the security of Kurdish, Arab, Assyrian and other peoples in the region. The general administration of Rojava Public Order ended its statement by stressing that public order forces would defeat the attacks that aim to break the will of the Kurdish people in the region and to force them to leave their houses and lands. |
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| Xoybun | 13th November 2013 - 11:46 PM Post #6246 |
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Not Norwegian. Swedish and Danish are better, Norwegians rely too much on their oil. If they didn't have oil they would all still be villagers.
Edited by Xoybun, 13th November 2013 - 11:49 PM.
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| Zagros | 13th November 2013 - 11:54 PM Post #6247 |
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Rojava Kurds make fresh military gains after declaring self-rule Reuters By Erika Solomon BEIRUT (Reuters) - Kurdish militias seized another seven villages in "northeastern Syria", Hassakah province, activists said on Wednesday, a day after the fighters' political wing announced an interim administration that aims to carve out an autonomous South Kurdistan. Kurds, often described as the world's largest stateless ethnic group, number about 30 million, concentrated in parts of Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq. While they have had partial autonomy in South Kurdistan since 1991, nationalist movements have long been suppressed in Turkey, Syria and Iran. In the chaos of Syria's 2-1/2 year civil war, Kurds there have captured most Kurdish-dominated cities. They have made major territorial gains in recent weeks, driving out the mostly Arab Islamist rebel units in their areas and paving the way for their long-declared plans for independent governance. Kurdish activists said the overnight gains pushed back al-Qaeda-linked rebel units in a southern chunk of Hassaka province, where the ethnic majority is Kurdish. The Kurds themselves are divided over the political group whose militias are behind the advances - the Democratic Union Party (PYD). The other main party, the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP), did not sign the plan for self-administration and has declined to comment on the declaration. The announcement of an interim administration in Kurdish-held areas goes against the wishes of political leaders in Kurdish-run KRG, who are friendly with the regional power Turkey. Ankara is wary of moves that could encourage further demands for autonomy among its own Kurdish population. Turkey is currently holding shaky peace talks with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), with which it fought a three-decade war. The PKK is now believed to be aligned with PYD's well-trained militias fighting in Rojava. KRG officials declined to comment openly, but privately said they saw the declaration, which lays out plans for a regional government like their own, as part of a deal with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Many Kurds are dismayed by the prospect that four decades of Assad family rule, under which Kurds were severely oppressed, could be replaced by one-party rule under the PYD. Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmed Davutoglu also accused the PYD of rebuilding ties with Assad while stifling its critics. "The PYD's gravest mistake was to oppress the Kurdish opposition in areas under its control, and to exert great pressure on other Kurds to an extent that both we and the regional government in KRG receive many complaints from Kurds there," he said. Assad is fighting to put down a revolt against his rule, led by Syria's Sunni Muslim Arab majority. The opposition accuses Assad of exploiting Kurdish aspirations for autonomy to get their cooperation in the fight against the rebels. SELF-RULE IN ROJAVA Kurdish groups aligned with the PYD on Tuesday said the planned local government would help bring stability and security to Kurdish regions amid the violence in Syria, which has killed well over 100,000 people. The declaration's signatories also drew up a "social contract" laying out a vision for local governance through a regional parliament. It called for the region to have its own flag and national anthem but remain part of Syria. "This contract aims to create a democracy whose base will be a democratic Syria with its regions of self-rule ... it adopts a new system based on local establishments and regional autonomy in a pluralistic Syria," the contract said. Regionally, the PYD's advances could signal a rift among the Kurds. Their plan goes directly against the wishes of the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) in KRG, which has been hosting Syrian Kurdish politicians and a quarter-million Syrian refugees, mostly Kurds. The military and political advances being made by the PYD highlights the growing tensions between the KRG and the PKK over transnational leadership of the Kurds. Critics of the PYD also accuse it of getting help from outside powers - namely, the regional Shi'ite power Iran and Iraq's Shi'ite-controlled central government, which are both allies of Assad. (Additional reporting by Isabel Coles in Hewlêr , Additional reporting by Ece Toksabay and Nick Tattersall in Istanbul; Editing by Will Waterman)
Edited by Zagros, 13th November 2013 - 11:57 PM.
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| Fire | 13th November 2013 - 11:55 PM Post #6248 |
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Help from Iran ,yeah lol. friggin turkish puppets ,those who are saying this.
Edited by Fire, 13th November 2013 - 11:56 PM.
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| Zagros | 14th November 2013 - 03:10 AM Post #6249 |
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MORE INFORMATION - Preparation of a Western Kurdistan Legislature Published on Wednesday, 13 November 2013 16:37 The meeting of the Constitutional General Council of the Interim Transitional Administration took place on 12th Nov 2013 in the presence of around 100 attendees representing 35 parties and civil society organisations. Also present were independent national figures from different communities of the region including Kurds, Arabs, Assyrians and others. Names of the parties and organisations who participated in the meeting: 1 - Syriac Union Party. 2 - Syriac Youth Union. 3 - Syriac Cultural Association. 4- Syriac Women's Union. 5- Syriac Academics Union. 6- National Coordination Committee . 7- Syrian National Bloc. 8- Arabic National Commission. 9- Communist Labor Party. 10- Kurdish Leftist Party. 11- Kurdistan Democratic Party. 12- Kurdish Democratic Left Party . 13- Kurdish National Democratic Gathering in Syria. 14- Kurdish Peace Democratic Party. 15- Kurdistan Liberal Union . 16- Kurdish Syrian Democratic Party. 17- The Star Union . 18- Syrian Women 's Initiative. 19- Human Rights Activists of Western Kurdistan. 20- Civil Peace Committee . 21- Democratic Union Party (PYD). 22- Shoresh Organization of Women. 23- Management of the Diplomatic Relations of Western Kurdistan. 24- People's Council of Western Kurdistan. 25- Kurdistan Democratic Party in Syria. 26- Organization of the State for the Society and Citizenship. 27- Sarah Organization for the Elimination of Violence Against Women. 28- Syria's Future Youth Gathering . 29- Communist Party of Kurdistan. 30- Movement of Democratic Society. 31- Supreme Kurdish Council. 32- Center of the Strategic Studies. 33- Kurdish Students Konfedrassion. 34- Revolutionary Youth Movement. 35- Young Woman Revolutionary Movement.
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| Alasha | 14th November 2013 - 07:07 AM Post #6250 |
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Have you guys noticed how the news channel(arabic) is talking about this all the time almost. They talk in an atmosphere like " We did not wanted this to happend and now it has happend and we cant do anything with it". ahhhh, i am so proud with all the great news we are getting about kurdish advance on unity and independence 
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