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| Topic Started: 1st February 2013 - 06:52 AM (6,600 Views) | |
| Deleted User | 3rd February 2013 - 04:37 AM Post #26 |
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It's true some Mandali families have gone to Baghdad for work or because of family connections, and the rest has gone to KRG, but I think it can still be possibly to annex. This will take time ofcourse. |
 
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| purearch72 | 3rd February 2013 - 04:39 AM Post #27 |
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This place looks like a dump, no investments at all. |
 
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| ALAN | 3rd February 2013 - 08:46 PM Post #28 |
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I have seen it on Kurdsat all Kurds have left one suburb left and they showed most doors had for sale on them. we must try to save Jalawla and Sadiya Jalawla and Sadiya are under Arabization threat let alone isolated Mendeli. And you haven't been there either but I've seen a full kurdsat report on the sub district. Edit: the one Kurdish suburb left in Mendeli is called Azadi. |
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| Deleted User | 3rd February 2013 - 08:52 PM Post #29 |
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I have been there heval, not last year but 3/4 years ago. I still remember it is Kurdish populated. And you keep saying it's isolated, as if people don't have family in Ilam. I don't want to start an argument or anything over something so little, but Mandali isn't Arabized by a longshot, it may be under threat from Arab settlers in the future, but hardly is it Arabized. Please show me Mandali on Kurdsat. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 12:09 AM Post #30 |
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ok. i'm looking for the video |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 12:21 AM Post #31 |
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Thanks, I just wish to know what Kurdsat said about them. And see what they are talking about. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 12:42 AM Post #32 |
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ok ill tell you the report. it was like last year. a Kurdsat TV crew visited Mendeli, iraqi police prevented them from taking videos of the town, then Kurdsat had to get Talabani involved so they can continue recording after 2 hours the TV crew were allowed to record. they talked to alot of people some arabs some kurds, the kurds demanded Peshmerga. they went to the kurdish neighborhoods, they were accompanied by some kurds, they told of the suburbs been deserted by kurds and asked KRG to stop this migration, the guy told most were leaving for Khanaqin and Kalar, he said he had 2 family left for Kalar and said they will not return until Peshmerga is in Mendeli. the guy showed many houses (kurds) which had for sale on them, that is what he said but they writing s were in arabic so i assume he was telling the truth as the camera showed the writings. he then took kurdsat crew to a suburb called "azadi" he said this was the only Kurdish majority suburb and even there there was "for sale" signs according to him and they again showed the writings on the wall. kurdsat presenter told about the iraqi police and how they wanted to confiscate his camera they called Peshmerga then Peshmerga came close to where they were been held by IP, then after some talks the camera crew were saved by the Peshemrga. i mean saved not their lives but the camera which they wanted to take away. i am now browsing throu kurdsat channel. did someone else by any chance see the video also !? it was during the time of the demo in Khanaqin. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 12:44 AM Post #33 |
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found this
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-264081029/iraq-programme-summary-gali.html now imagine what poor Mendeli will be like which is waaaaay south of Jalawla and Sadiya sub districts. |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 12:46 AM Post #34 |
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Here is Mandali, from Mandalwani community:(And just go onto the profiles of the members and you can see they are pro-krg)   Mandali Peshmerga:    Even the mosque is not funded:    Oh and here we go again heval Kurdish flag:(Trust me that man is a Kurd, I can spot a Kurd from a mile away, and a fayli from 10. :thumbsup: ) 
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 12:48 AM Post #35 |
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Heval the Kurdish population is larger and those cities are on the very fringes. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 01:04 AM Post #36 |
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this is a recent video about Khanaqin sliced off sub districts of Jalawa and Sadyia. they are talking about the elections coming up, and the fear of kurds losing these two towns as kurds are now a minority in them both, they want to make the Kurdish votes who left these two towns to be counted and not go to waste. in the video there is no talk of Mendeli. if Jalalwla and Sadiya are now Kurdish minority then what is Mendeli like? which lies south of these two towns by at least 100 kms. map of Jalawla and Sadiya in respect to Mendeli underneath Khanaqin you see Jalawla and see where Mendeli is, now if Jalawla is a Kurdish minority then what is left of Mendeli?  trust me JJ i tell you this unfortunately these lands are totally lost, UNLESS the people start moving back there and start buying back the houses they sold to Arabs. the same with Hawija in Kirkuk (which is my city btw). |
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| FeyliKurd | 4th February 2013 - 01:14 AM Post #37 |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:15 AM Post #38 |
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LOOK I already told you that the city was Mandali, you are accusing me of lying? You first say that isn't Mandili me and FeyliKurd said it was, and now I showed you it from pictures taken by Mandalwanis, and you are still talking about minority. Jalawa is different to Mandali, and you are getting so mixed up, even though I explained it hundreds of times. It's not isolated, because Kurds migrate back and forth from Ilam(Mehran) to Mandali, aswell as Baghdad to Mandali. Because that is where ancestral lands of Arkawaz and Malek shahi is. You keep banging on about it being Arabized, which is not the case. Is it poor? Yes, is it disoconcted from KRG? Yes. Is it mostly Kurdish? Yes. Oh and where are these so called homes that are being sold? Have you seen the homes in Mandali, they won't be sold for a dime, and nor are Mandaliwanis leaving Mandali as you try and make out. Even if property is sold, what you don't realise is other Kurds from neighbouring fayli tribes buy it. For example in Baghdad there was an ali shirwani family, and they sold their house to a Malek shahi from Mandali. |
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| FeyliKurd | 4th February 2013 - 01:15 AM Post #39 |
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| FeyliKurd | 4th February 2013 - 01:17 AM Post #40 |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:19 AM Post #41 |
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Heval Alan won't believe his eyes, they are all Arabs to him. :lol: (Just joking) But on a serious note not all of Maliki's soldiers are anti-Kurd or even political, there are some gaurds who treat the Kurds good there and alot of the gaurds(police) actually know Kurds from Baghdad. |
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| FeyliKurd | 4th February 2013 - 01:29 AM Post #42 |
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Who cares how it looks? The important thing is that it is Kurdish land and all Kurdish land is worth dying for, don't you think? |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 01:36 AM Post #43 |
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hehe ok, you still seem like you dont see where i am coming from. 1st you "thought" i said Mendeli was not Kurdish and now you are saying they are "pro KRG" again i never said they were or werent pro KRG, all i am saying is now the town is losing to arab majorities pouring in from iraq, kurds are leaving for KRG as they are (pro KRG) as you said they are and they are not going to iraq, milki tried taking the flag down in Khanaqin which IS under KRG, so how do you think milki would like our flag in a town his militia is in control !?? those photos are OLD heval if you can go there in 2013 and take a pic of a Kurdish flag then i will very much say, i was wrong. but i assure you there aint no Kurdish flags as of the Khanaqin flag dilemma created by maliki, he even ordered our flag to be lowered from Naft Khana border point with iran, then few days later some civilians went there and re-raised the flag which later were again taken down. i follow news from SK more than any member on here trust me i know every lil details about every news that happens there. |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:36 AM Post #44 |
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Mandali looking towards Mehran(Ilam) 
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:41 AM Post #45 |
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Your trying of make a joke of me, but it isn't working. Because those photos are a year old, 2 at the max for the villages. And it isn't a Arab majority lol, where do you get these facts from that Arabs are taking over Mandali? Not one source or academic document states that. Again your argument don't make sense because I even told you there was a Kurdish flag on the PDK centre for Kurds in Baghdad, but you still don't believe me. I told you I have been there, and have relatives there, but you still don't believe me. I don't care, think what you want, but if Mandali is Arab majority, so is Kirkuk. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 01:43 AM Post #46 |
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these images are OLD, as off the flag order in Khanaqin since oct.2011, there is no Kurdish flags in Mendeli, Jalawla and Sadiya. i believe in what i saw on kurdsat, a report from their TV crew into Mendeli, who were stopped taking videos by milki forces, i find it very strange that now you are defending miliki forces to be "pro Kurd". these are sensitive things to us heval i am disappointed to hear that coming from you 
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 01:51 AM Post #47 |
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ok that is very childish of you lol. there is an election map of 2010 showing kurds majority in Kirkuk and i have posted it on here, show me a map of Mendeli 2010 elections please !? |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:51 AM Post #48 |
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You still haven't showed me no video of Mandali taking down Kurdish flags, but keep joking with me if you like to. Because that report didn't show Mandali. Now you acuse me of lying again, you are no different from Dyako then. |
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| Deleted User | 4th February 2013 - 01:57 AM Post #49 |
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Atleast I'm not accusing someone of lying, and there is no information on Mandali election vote, but I'm sure you think they voted for Arab parties as Faylis are Arabs. |
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| ALAN | 4th February 2013 - 01:59 AM Post #50 |
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when did i say that? you keep putting words into my mouth how can i even aruge back to you even time there is something made up!!
no that report does not talk about Mendeli as they do not count on Mendli to become part of KRG, since they want to keep Kurdish votes intact for Jalawla and Sadyia but not so much for Mendeli.
i never accused you of lying, i just stated that you are wrong, only because it is a feyli town you think it is a Kurdish majority this is all your argument here which does not validate at all. i will find that video report from kurdsat and when i do you gonna own a big apology :-D , and comparing me to dyako is just plain silly . Edit: i aint no kurd banner no thanks and I don't think I'm superior than you just cos I'm the admin and I do listen to what members want changed on the board kf |
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