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Dersa kurmanji
Topic Started: 26th January 2013 - 08:55 AM (14,427 Views)
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Does anyone wanna practice kurmanji?
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I know some but I want to learn more :)
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Ki bi min kurmanji dixwazi peyvin? << rasti?
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Max_b
28th January 2013 - 10:17 AM
Ki bi min kurmanji dixwazi peyvin? << rasti?
xudê bîçek , peyvin means talking ?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Yea
Does anyone what to talk kurmanji with me? Is that right?
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I do I want to be fluent one day :)
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Walate te li ku ye?
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Max_b
30th January 2013 - 11:08 PM
Walate te li ku ye?
Danîmarka, tu?

By the way, as I am a Kurd from Anatolia, we still speak Kurmanji, but it has been heavily turkified. I want to learn the real Kurmanji and I will be starting in a class soon. :)
Edited by Qandil, 30th January 2013 - 11:49 PM.
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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Walate min kurdistan, le bele ez li londra dijim
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Kulka Kurdayati
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bullshit

I not the expert but shouldnt it be - Welate me Kurdistan?
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No,

When you're using 'ez' in the same sentence than 'min' is right. (ez = I ; min = my/mine)
When you're using 'em' in the same sentence than 'me' is right. (em = we)

But as a Kurmanji Yezidi Kurd I would start my sentence like this: 'Walate 'me' Kurda, ....'


Btw, if you're fluent in other Kurdish dialects it's not very difficult to be also fluent in Kurmanji.
Edited by the SUN child, 6th February 2013 - 04:07 AM.
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in Kurmanji "me" means we. in Sorani its Ême
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Alan
6th February 2013 - 04:13 AM
in Kurmanji "me" means we. in Sorani its Ême
'Eme' is also in Kurmanji 'we'. So 'eme' is in Kurmanji and Sorani the same.

And 'je me' is in Kurmanji 'our'
Edited by the SUN child, 6th February 2013 - 04:28 AM.
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Well, Izadi is wrong on many things, but NOT in this one. Kurmanji and Sorani are the closest dialects to each other. As a native Kurmanji speaker I do understand Sorani very well. But it’s very difficult for me to understand other Kurdish dialects from Kurdistan.
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^^ hmmm, how come purearch has difficulties understanding us :S
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Alan
6th February 2013 - 04:13 AM
in Kurmanji "me" means we. in Sorani its Ême
are you sure heval? coz as much as i hear from prople "We" is "Em".
Thats why we say;
Ez kime?
Em kine?

But of course i might be wrong.

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ok, i found out
min is my for singular (Ez - I)
me is our for plural (Em - we)

thats why i always say sornai is much easier.

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~iranian/Kurmanji/kurmanji_1_grammar.pdf

Good luck :D
Edited by Kulka Kurdayati, 6th February 2013 - 08:20 AM.
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6th February 2013 - 04:51 AM
Alan
6th February 2013 - 04:45 AM
^^ hmmm, how come purearch has difficulties understanding us :S
Regional accent variation?
Personally for me I find that I can understand sorani maybe 50% of what someone is saying when talking, but the thing that overwealms me the most is how quickly they talk. When I watch Kurdistan TV news channel I can understand what they say, but I think its because they use many Kurmanji words aswell.
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That is cos sometimes they have Kurmanji speakers all SK channels do now
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Ez kinem? :hmmm
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I meant MY welat is kurdistan, im not talkin about anyone else,
I think i made a mistake, maybe welate xwe?
But etherway, welate min kurdistan = my contry is kurdistan



Hun li ku diji?
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Max_b
9th February 2013 - 08:44 PM
I meant MY welat is kurdistan, im not talkin about anyone else,
I think i made a mistake, maybe welate xwe?
But etherway, welate min kurdistan = my contry is kurdistan



Hun li ku diji?
Yes, heval, i checked - you right - min is "my" (me is "ours")

I live in UK now
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Can someone explain me this in English?

http://ku.wiktionary.org/wiki/di_..._de

I don't get it. You can also see it one of the Kurdish articles, like this one:

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Kurdistanskyscrapers/single/?p=8042281&t=8544852

You can see it says, "di peyamê de".

What does it mean?
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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Its something like "in", "at" (i assume from they said its like le...da in sorani), in here it can mean "in the message"
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So "di" can mean either "in" or "at"?

How would you translate it in English, from the article above. This line:

"Di peyamê de hate gotin ku, di têkoşîna azadiya gelê Kurd de Başûrê Kurdistanê"?
Edited by Qandil, 10th March 2013 - 09:46 AM.
"Kurdino! Bibin yek; eger hûn nebin yek, hûn ê herin yek bi yek." - Cigerxwîn.
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I dont know exactly coz i am not kurmanji, i can only guess what some expressions means if i compare them to sorani. I think heval Tevger can help
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