ILAM - EASTERN KURDISTAN

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ILAM - EASTERN KURDISTAN; Pahli/fayli ancestral homeland
Topic Started: 19th January 2013 - 08:19 AM (13,019 Views)
Deleted User	19th January 2013 - 08:19 AM Post #1
Deleted User	My homeland kf :
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ALAN	20th January 2013 - 01:49 AM Post #2
Posts: 31,899 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	thank you keep up updated looks amazing btw



Deleted User	20th January 2013 - 04:05 AM Post #3
Deleted User	Alan 20th January 2013 - 01:49 AM thank you keep up updated looks amazing btw That small city/large town is Darreh shahr city in Ilam. Apparently on Wiki it labels it as Kurdish with Lor minority, lol even though Lors who are Fayli are Kurds and call themselves as such. Kabir Kuh mountain in Ilam:
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RawandKurdistani	20th January 2013 - 04:29 AM Post #4
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	JJmuneer, it's not be an annoying troll, but you always used to claim Kermashan as your hometown, didn't you?



Deleted User	20th January 2013 - 04:51 AM Post #5
Deleted User	RawandKurdistani 20th January 2013 - 04:29 AM JJmuneer, it's not be an annoying troll, but you always used to claim Kermashan as your hometown, didn't you? What do you mean used to? I have family in Kirmanshan from my mum's side, I never stated otherwise. I have family in most of the pahli Kurdish regions. But what I meant is that there are Faylis there, that is all. We have links to them. Ilam is the heartland of the Shirwani and Arkawazi Kurds, you can even visit the town of Pahla in Ilam and the tribe eldars will tell you. But if you mean which one do I identify with? Well I don't really like to identify with Kirmanshani side, because Kirmanshan sadly has a Persian population in it who have businesses aswell as the general feel of the city, it is strongly occupied by Iranian gaurds. I don't really know how to explain it, but I feel because Ilam is the heartland of the Fayli Kurds I feel more at home there, well western lorestan aswell, but previous to WW1 pretty much Western Lorestan, Ilam and Mandali/badra were apart of one semi-independant Kurdish state.
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RawandKurdistani	20th January 2013 - 06:30 AM Post #6
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	jjmuneer 20th January 2013 - 04:51 AM RawandKurdistani 20th January 2013 - 04:29 AM JJmuneer, it's not be an annoying troll, but you always used to claim Kermashan as your hometown, didn't you? What do you mean used to? I have family in Kirmanshan from my mum's side, I never stated otherwise. I have family in most of the pahli Kurdish regions. But what I meant is that there are Faylis there, that is all. We have links to them. Ilam is the heartland of the Shirwani and Arkawazi Kurds, you can even visit the town of Pahla in Ilam and the tribe eldars will tell you. But if you mean which one do I identify with? Well I don't really like to identify with Kirmanshani side, because Kirmanshan sadly has a Persian population in it who have businesses aswell as the general feel of the city, it is strongly occupied by Iranian gaurds. I don't really know how to explain it, but I feel because Ilam is the heartland of the Fayli Kurds I feel more at home there, well western lorestan aswell, but previous to WW1 pretty much Western Lorestan, Ilam and Mandali/badra were apart of one semi-independant Kurdish state. I may be wrong, but back in the Roj bash days you reffered to yourself as Kermashani, but now you seem to prefer the Ilami side, that's what i meant. Of course i can't be too sure, but that's just the impression i got. I also have a question regarding Kermashan, since i've never been there: How large is the population of persians and brainwashed kurds in the city? Would it be realistic to put a claim on it?



Deleted User	20th January 2013 - 08:39 AM Post #7
Deleted User	RawandKurdistani 20th January 2013 - 06:30 AM jjmuneer 20th January 2013 - 04:51 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I may be wrong, but back in the Roj bash days you reffered to yourself as Kermashani, but now you seem to prefer the Ilami side, that's what i meant. Of course i can't be too sure, but that's just the impression i got. I also have a question regarding Kermashan, since i've never been there: How large is the population of persians and brainwashed kurds in the city? Would it be realistic to put a claim on it? I always said i have family in kirmanshan, but not a kirmanshani. Well Kirmanshan is a big city, it's hard to tell how many persians or persianized kurds there are. But i remember i saw alot of persians who owned shops and were wealthy.
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RawandKurdistani	20th January 2013 - 08:57 AM Post #8
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	jjmuneer 20th January 2013 - 08:39 AM RawandKurdistani 20th January 2013 - 06:30 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I always said i have family in kirmanshan, but not a kirmanshani. Well Kirmanshan is a big city, it's hard to tell how many persians or persianized kurds there are. But i remember i saw alot of persians who owned shops and were wealthy. The idea of persians living on our lands, makes me sick, i would seriously prefer turks living on it. I guess we can only hope, for Kermashani's to rise after the kurdish uprising in Eastern Kurdistan, not much else can be done, considering the regime will do everything, to keep the population brainwashed. And i forget to say it: Ilam is a beautiful province Edited by RawandKurdistani, 20th January 2013 - 08:59 AM.



RawandKurdistani	20th January 2013 - 10:22 AM Post #9
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Brendar	21st January 2013 - 12:46 AM Post #11
Posts: 3,088 Group: Elite Member #6 Joined: Nov 20, 2012 Mood None	Nice pictures, Great city.



Deleted User	21st January 2013 - 01:11 AM Post #12
Deleted User	brendar 21st January 2013 - 12:46 AM Nice pictures, Great city. Thank you, but that "city" is a small town lol. Our cities in comparison to cities in SK are so small. It is like one whole tribe moving in.
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ALAN	21st January 2013 - 03:25 AM Post #13
Posts: 31,899 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	Yeah and you ate right about mandala it needs to re unite with Ilam which is more achievable than it been connected to SK mainland



Deleted User	26th January 2013 - 08:01 AM Post #14
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RawandKurdistani	26th January 2013 - 08:09 AM Post #15
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Ilam city. It looks quite nice



Deleted User	26th January 2013 - 08:16 AM Post #16
Deleted User	RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:09 AM Ilam city. It looks quite nice You sure that is Ilam city heval? Strange because when I was there it felt much smaller, the city just seemed like one big village. But yeh probably from birds eye view it is different.
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RawandKurdistani	26th January 2013 - 08:32 AM Post #17
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Shirwan 26th January 2013 - 08:16 AM RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:09 AM Ilam city. It looks quite nice You sure that is Ilam city heval? Strange because when I was there it felt much smaller, the city just seemed like one big village. But yeh probably from birds eye view it is different. I found the picture on some Iranian site. i've compared it to some other pictures of the city, and it seems to be the same.



Deleted User	26th January 2013 - 08:34 AM Post #18
Deleted User	RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:32 AM Shirwan 26th January 2013 - 08:16 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I found the picture on some Iranian site. i've compared it to some other pictures of the city, and it seems to be the same. I see, but I prefer rural areas/ I like the calm.
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RawandKurdistani	26th January 2013 - 08:37 AM Post #19
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Shirwan 26th January 2013 - 08:34 AM RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:32 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep I see, but I prefer rural areas/ I like the calm. Trust me, i like the calm places too, i will always prefer building a house in the beautiful Kurdish nature. However life close to the city is also alot easier than out in the middle of nowhere.



Deleted User	26th January 2013 - 08:41 AM Post #20
Deleted User	RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:37 AM Shirwan 26th January 2013 - 08:34 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep Trust me, i like the calm places too, i will always prefer building a house in the beautiful Kurdish nature. However life close to the city is also alot easier than out in the middle of nowhere. Buildings ruin and destroy nature heval. Village life or rural life isn't that hard, it is only a matter of setting up and being able to farm crops, aswell as have a few cattle.
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RawandKurdistani	26th January 2013 - 08:48 AM Post #21
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Shirwan 26th January 2013 - 08:41 AM RawandKurdistani 26th January 2013 - 08:37 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep Buildings ruin and destroy nature heval. Village life or rural life isn't that hard, it is only a matter of setting up and being able to farm crops, aswell as have a few cattle. You know both of my parents spend their childhood as villagers during Saddam's time. Ever since i can remember, they have told me stories of how wonderful the village life was. However there we're also bad sides. Sometimes when they we're sleeping, they would suddently wake up to find a rat or snake in the room. They always crawled through the walls. Now most of my mom's side moved to a city, and my father's village turned into another city. Edited by RawandKurdistani, 26th January 2013 - 08:50 AM.



ALAN	1st March 2013 - 06:20 PM Post #22
Posts: 31,899 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	How gorgeous ! Attached to this post: 541578_341598905952439_441470560_n.jpg (71.41 KB)



Kulka Kurdayati	7th March 2013 - 12:23 PM Post #23
bullshit Posts: 1,906 Group: Elite Member #9 Joined: Nov 20, 2012 Mood None	Why its so bloody beautiful? Well, i like rats and snakes, so for me its ok. I have another problem. SPIDERS. I prefer to face the entire turkish terrorists army than one spider - at least i am able to fight with turks not to run away screaming



Halo	16th March 2013 - 11:26 PM Post #24
Têkoşer Posts: 5,745 Group: Elite Member #36 Joined: Jan 9, 2013 Mood None	JJ, do you remember when you said that central eastern and north eastern Kurdistan tend to have so called 'persian' influence in their music(bullshit, the most disrespectful thing about kurdish music I've ever heard) and that only you faylees used, how shall we say 'pure kurdish music'. Well if you go to 5.50 in the video you'll see "persian influence" as you say in the performance.



Xoybun	17th March 2013 - 08:14 AM Post #25
PERMANENTLY BANNED Posts: 0 Group: Members Member #15 Joined: Dec 5, 2012 Mood None	Simko 16th March 2013 - 11:26 PM JJ, do you remember when you said that central eastern and north eastern Kurdistan tend to have so called 'persian' influence in their music(bullshit, the most disrespectful thing about kurdish music I've ever heard) and that only you faylees used, how shall we say 'pure kurdish music'. Well if you go to 5.50 in the video you'll see "persian influence" as you say in the performance. It has some Persian influence. I can hear it.



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