[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan

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[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan; Greater Kurdistan or all 4 parts individually
Topic Started: 21st November 2012 - 11:45 PM (371,129 Views)
ALAN	4th October 2013 - 12:42 AM Post #201
Posts: 34,716 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	i find this map as the best map what do you think? Attached to this post: 1377219_10151654442878247_1663003867_n.jpg (133.34 KB)



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 12:43 AM Post #202
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	It doesn't include south Ilam for some reason.



FeyliKurd	4th October 2013 - 02:43 AM Post #203
Alîşerwanî Posts: 1,492 Group: Elite Member #23 Joined: Dec 17, 2012	According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? Attached to this post: Kurdistan_bajar.png (438.64 KB)



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 02:50 AM Post #204
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 02:46 AM According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? Feyli have you actually been to that part of Kurdistan? My dad has been there several times in the past and I can tell you western lorestan all of them are Kurds and seen themselves as such. Lor is just a tribe, just like ali shirwan or moosi or arkwazi.



Tevger	4th October 2013 - 02:51 AM Post #205
Posts: 4,344 Group: Elite Member #49 Joined: Feb 1, 2013 Mood None	Iskenderrun is not kurdish though.



RawandKurdistani	4th October 2013 - 02:59 AM Post #206
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Tevger 4th October 2013 - 02:51 AM Iskenderrun is not kurdish though. The millions of Kurds moving back from western Anatolia need somewhere to settle JK. Edited by RawandKurdistani, 4th October 2013 - 03:02 AM.



RawandKurdistani	4th October 2013 - 03:01 AM Post #207
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 02:43 AM According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? The only issue i have with this map is the fact that all of Hamadan is included. I recall this region as being ridiculously Pro-Iran.



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 03:05 AM Post #208
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	RawandKurdistani 4th October 2013 - 03:01 AM FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 02:43 AM According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? The only issue i have with this map is the fact that all of Hamadan is included. I recall this region as being ridiculously Pro-Iran. Well western Hamadan(rural hamdan) is Kurdish. You have to also remember Hamadan is the historic city of the Medes(Ecbatana).



RawandKurdistani	4th October 2013 - 03:09 AM Post #209
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	Quote: Well western Hamadan(rural hamdan) is Kurdish. How much of the province would you mean with "Western" Hamadan? Like in percentage maybe. Quote: You have to also remember Hamadan is the historic city of the Medes(Ecbatana). Yes, and it would be nice having it back. Question is how? Sadly seems too unrealistic. Edited by RawandKurdistani, 4th October 2013 - 03:10 AM.



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 03:12 AM Post #210
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	RawandKurdistani 4th October 2013 - 03:09 AM Quote: Well western Hamadan(rural hamdan) is Kurdish. How much of the province would you mean with "Western" Hamadan? Like in percentage maybe. Quote: You have to also remember Hamadan is the historic city of the Medes(Ecbatana). Yes, and it would be nice having it back. Question is how? Sadly seems too unrealistic. Well when I say western Hamadan, I mean just physically west to the city, so I don't know how much that would be in percentage.



FeyliKurd	4th October 2013 - 03:17 AM Post #211
Alîşerwanî Posts: 1,492 Group: Elite Member #23 Joined: Dec 17, 2012	ALAN 4th October 2013 - 12:42 AM i find this map as the best map what do you think? The problem is majority of Rojava land is missing on that map, important cities such as Efrin and Kobanê.



FeyliKurd	4th October 2013 - 03:25 AM Post #212
Alîşerwanî Posts: 1,492 Group: Elite Member #23 Joined: Dec 17, 2012	jjmuneer 4th October 2013 - 02:50 AM FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 02:46 AM According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? Feyli have you actually been to that part of Kurdistan? My dad has been there several times in the past and I can tell you western lorestan all of them are Kurds and seen themselves as such. Lor is just a tribe, just like ali shirwan or moosi or arkwazi. Unfortunately I have not had the fortunate to visit Luristan or Ilam yet. To be honest, my knowledge on the lurs is very limited. But do you consider Khorramabad to be a part of Kurdistan? Edited by FeyliKurd, 4th October 2013 - 03:36 AM.



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 03:40 AM Post #213
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 03:25 AM jjmuneer 4th October 2013 - 02:50 AM Quoting limited to 2 levels deep Unfortunately I have not had the fortunate to visit Luristan or Ilam yet. To be honest, my knowledge on the lurs is very limited. But do you consider Khorramabad to be a part of Kurdistan? Well let me just put it this way for you. The demographics have changed due to the Persianization of the region, from the period of the later Qajars and Pahlavis. However since there is no up-to-date consensus on the city or even the entire province, I'm certain the city is pred Kurdish. I've seen this before, even in Ilam the Iranian government chooses to purposely bring down Kurdish demographics by stating "Kordalis" aren't Kurdish but Lors. For fk sake its in their name, I mean what more do they want.



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 03:56 AM Post #214
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	Here is a song from a Lori Kurd: Here is a singer from Southern Ilam: Your telling me this guy is singing in Persian?



ALAN	4th October 2013 - 11:15 AM Post #215
Posts: 34,716 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	And it has Mosul an arab city, only parts of the province is Kurdish the city itself is not



jjmuneer	4th October 2013 - 11:14 PM Post #216
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	This is the map used on Wikipedia: The Yellow parts are meant to be ethnically Kurdish, and blue parts "ethnically Lor". I put that in quotations, because how the fk is Lor a seperate ethnicity. And hell even if I were to take that map seriously, fk why is all of Ilam "Lor". The actuall Lor tribes are conentrated to the very west of Ilam and Lorestan, and all see themselves as Kurdish. But apparently I'm a different ethnicity to you guys. Didn't I tell you the bullshit Iranian consensuses are. Attached to this post: Iran_Ethnicity_2004.png (36.43 KB)



Kurdistano	4th October 2013 - 11:26 PM Post #217
Posts: 3,156 Group: Elite Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	FeyliKurd 4th October 2013 - 02:43 AM According to me, this is the most accurate map of Kurdistan. It includes southern Ilam, as well as Luristan province. However, I'm not sure if lurs wants to be a part of Greater Kurdistan? It would be more realistic and better if we reached the Mediterranean from Rojava, because in Rojava we would need to include less none Kurdish territory. Hatay might be or not be historically Kurdish but modern Hatay is at least 50% non Kurd. And the same with Antep which is another huge province.



Kurdistano	4th October 2013 - 11:28 PM Post #218
Posts: 3,156 Group: Elite Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	jjmuneer 4th October 2013 - 11:14 PM This is the map used on Wikipedia: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Iran-Ethnicity-2004.PNG The Yellow parts are meant to be ethnically Kurdish, and blue parts "ethnically Lor". I put that in quotations, because how the fk is Lor a seperate ethnicity. And hell even if I were to take that map seriously, fk why is all of Ilam "Lor". The actuall Lor tribes are conentrated to the very west of Ilam and Lorestan, and all see themselves as Kurdish. But apparently I'm a different ethnicity to you guys. Didn't I tell you the bullshit Iranian consensuses are. yeah and according to that all Khuzestanis and Bushehr people are Persian there is nothing Arab In real life our enemies can not do anything against our goals the reason why they let out their frustration on Wikipedia the same with other parts of Kurdistan.



ALAN	4th October 2013 - 11:33 PM Post #219
Posts: 34,716 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	Attached to this post: image.jpg (84.93 KB)



jjmuneer	5th October 2013 - 12:28 AM Post #220
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	Alan I don't get why all those maps just about include Ilam city. I think Kurds in SK and NK need more education on South EK.



ALAN	5th October 2013 - 02:03 AM Post #221
Posts: 34,716 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	Yeah but remember not all Lors say they are Kurds thus prob why this happens This map from Al Watan popular Arabic newspaper Attached to this post: image.jpg (167.12 KB)



jjmuneer	5th October 2013 - 04:03 AM Post #222
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	ALAN 5th October 2013 - 02:03 AM Yeah but remember not all Lors say they are Kurds thus prob why this happens This map from Al Watan popular Arabic newspaper Which Lor heval? My friend you are talking about the "Lors" who live in Khuzistan or Fars, and they are Persianized Lors, but you shouldn't trust the Iranian consensus. Has there ever been a UN conducted consensus on the populations in Iran?



Tesseract	5th October 2013 - 04:57 AM Post #223
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	jjmuneer 4th October 2013 - 11:14 PM This is the map used on Wikipedia: The Yellow parts are meant to be ethnically Kurdish, and blue parts "ethnically Lor". I put that in quotations, because how the fk is Lor a seperate ethnicity. And hell even if I were to take that map seriously, fk why is all of Ilam "Lor". The actuall Lor tribes are conentrated to the very west of Ilam and Lorestan, and all see themselves as Kurdish. But apparently I'm a different ethnicity to you guys. Didn't I tell you the bullshit Iranian consensuses are. Another simplistic map made by some dumb Persians. I don't think it's debatable that Lakis and Failis are Kurds! These are the most accurate and comprehensive maps I've seen, especially regarding Southern Iran: Source: http://gulf2000.columbia.edu/maps.shtml Attached to this post: Iran_Religions_lg.png (491.25 KB) Iran_Languages_lg.jpg (4.73 MB) Iranic_Languages_lg.png (1.56 MB)



purearch72	5th October 2013 - 06:27 AM Post #224
Banned by member request Posts: 2,684 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Nov 20, 2012 Mood None	That second map is horrible, I invite people to go to urmiyeh we control the city. All the Turks migrated to Tehran ect. I will say though that Kurds kind of ruined urmiyeh we'll not really ruined but gave it a bad reputation. Edited by purearch72, 5th October 2013 - 06:32 AM.



jjmuneer	5th October 2013 - 06:27 AM Post #225
Posts: 2,188 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	To be honest the linguistic map isn't accurate. Again it keeps saying Ilam is mixed, Ilam is actually probably one of the most homogenous of the provinces in EK. There is only a very very small Persian population, who are usually gaurds or students. And if you go to Ilam or South EK, no one views themselves as Lor or Lak, either Feyli/Kurd or your tribe name. And frankly Lak has more linguistic connations more than anything.



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