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[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan; Greater Kurdistan or all 4 parts individually
Topic Started: 21st November 2012 - 11:45 PM (365,193 Views)
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Hevalê Alan it is almost good but like a lot of other (false) maps there isn't Mûsil. And by the way, Enteqye isn't Kurdish.

Hevalê Fulcrum there is only one color for all the Kurdistan, very good map.
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28th August 2015 - 07:23 AM
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Holy shizz, the situation there looks a whole lot worse than I thought. I really hope that there will be no more black on that map anytime soon, but knowing my country (United States) and how they handle things in the Middle East... all I can do is just hope that everyone else puts up a good fight while my country fights over which dumbass should be president.

Seriously though, that shizz's scary.
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28th August 2015 - 08:05 AM
FulcrumKAF
28th August 2015 - 07:23 AM
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Holy shizz, the situation there looks a whole lot worse than I thought. I really hope that there will be no more black on that map anytime soon, but knowing my country (United States) and how they handle things in the Middle East... all I can do is just hope that everyone else puts up a good fight while my country fights over which dumbass should be president.

Seriously though, that shizz's scary.
we kurds will hunt them down, and scare them away with our bravery and women(they are scared to death for women because if they get killed by a women they will go to hell, and don't get their 72 virgins.
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The iraqi army is making some progress now, syrian army is breaking against isis, free syrian army doesn't do so well against isis.
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28th August 2015 - 08:37 AM
The iraqi army is making some progress now, syrian army is breaking against isis, free syrian army doesn't do so well against isis.
Yeah, here's to hoping that the Coalition would help out and destroy them too. From what I've heard, lots of Canadians are joining in on the fight. Either way, I'm on the Kurd's side of this, and I hope they win, with or without US support.
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They will.
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The thing is the black part is all Sunni Arab lands who support Isis...
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a guy from singapore made this

and he made this map with kurdish names
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Map of Kurdistan in 1919 Paris peace conference ‎

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15.3.2012
By Alan Abdulla — Exclusive for Ekurd.net

Map of Kurdistan in 1919 Paris peace conference.

A Kurdistan region was scheduled to have a referendum to decide its fate, which, according to Section III Articles 62–64, was to include the Mosul Province.

There was no general agreement among Kurds on what its borders should be because of the disparity between the areas of Kurdish settlement and the political and administrative boundaries of the region. The outlines of a "Kurdistan" as an entity were proposed in 1919 by Şerif Pasha, who represented the Society for the Ascension of Kurdistan (Kürdistan Teali Cemiyeti) at the Paris Peace Conference. He defined the region's boundaries as follows:

"The frontiers of Turkish Kurdistan, from an ethnographical point of view, begin in the north at Ziven, on the Caucasian frontier, and continue westwards to Erzurum, Erzincan, Kemah, Arapgir, Besni and Divick (Divrik?); in the south they follow the line from Harran, the Sinjihar Hills, Tel Asfar, Hewlêr, Sulaimani , Akk-el-man, Sinne; in the east, Ravandiz, Başkale, Vezirkale, that is to say the frontier of Persia as far as Mount Ararat."

This caused controversy among other Kurdish nationalists, as it excluded the Van region (possibly as a sop to Armenian claims to that region). Emin Ali Bedirhan proposed an alternative map which included Van and an outlet to the sea via Turkey's present Hatay Province. Amid a joint declaration by Kurdish and Armenian delegations, Kurdish claims on Erzurum vilayet and Sassoun (Sason) were dropped but arguments for sovereignty over Ağrı and Muş remained.

Neither of these proposals was endorsed by the treaty of Sèvres, which outlined a truncated Kurdistan located on what is now Turkish territory (leaving out the Kurds of Iran, British-controlled Iraq and French-controlled Syria). However, even that plan was never implemented as the Treaty of Sèvres was replaced by the Treaty of Lausanne. The current Iraq-Turkey border was agreed in July 1926.

Also article 63 grants explicitly full safeguard and protection to the Assyro-Chaldean minority. This reference was later dropped in the treaty of Lausanne.

An Arab delegation at Paris was led by Emir Faisal, with Colonel T. E. Lawrence as interpreter. Lawrence was officially employed by the British Foreign Office but acted as if he were a full member of the Arab delegation, wearing Arab dress. During World War I, he had recruited an Arab Legion to fight against the Ottomans with the support of Faisal's father, King Hussein, in return for assurances that an Arab state would be established in the remnants of the Ottoman Empire. The geographical extent of this territory was never finalized, but Hussein himself assumed it would stretch from the Hejaz north, including the Ottoman province of Greater Syria, which included Palestine, Trans-Jordan as well as part of Iraq. While the Lebanon was also in Greater Syria, it was understood that the French would assume responsibility for this territory and that some areas would be entrusted to the British. No official treaty existed but the offer was confirmed in correspondence from Sir Henry McMahon (1862-1949), Britain's High Commissioner in Egypt

The Balfour Declaration came as a shock to the Arab leader, since this promised the Jews a homeland in the middle of what he assumed would be an Arab state. Also, the Sykes-Picot Agreement of May 16, 1916 between the British and the French allocated territory to the two powers with no reference to an Arab state. While Hussein expected to be given Syria,www.ekurd.net the Agreement entrusted Syria to the French. However, Emir Faisal presented the Arab case at the Conference, even though his very presence there was resented by the French, who did not see why Arabs should be represented. Woodrow Wilson was sympathetic to the Arab cause but did not want the U.S. to administer a mandate in the Middle East, which might have occurred had the Conference agreed to the Arab proposal. Lawrence did his best to persuade delegates to support the Arabs but may have alienated some because of his disregard for protocol - officially, he was present as an interpreter.

In 1918, before leaving for the Conference, he had presented an alternative map of the region which included a Kurdish state and boundaries based on local sensitivities rather than on imperial interests. The borders of the British-French map were determined by existing commercial concessions, known as "capitulations." The final division did not deliver the Arab state as such. The British, however, established Faisal as king of Iraq and his brother as king of Jordan, which they carved from out of their Mandate of Palestine. Hussein was free to declare the Hejaz independent (it had been under the Ottomans) but he fell to a coup led by Prince Abdul Aziz bin Saud in 1924, founder of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Lawrence, although bitterly disappointed by the Conference's outcome, was instrumental in establishing the kingdoms of Iraq and Jordan.

references:
http://www.kurd.org/doc/OLeary_SLIDES.pdf
Brendan O’Leary , Lauder Professor of Political Science , University of Pennsylvania.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_S%C3%A8vres
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Paris_Peace_Conference,_1919

http://ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2012/3/state5992.htm
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We should also include Mosul into KRG as it was part of KRG in 1921....

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Turks, syrians and iraqis were awarded their borders by western powers while we are drawing ours with our blood

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Coming soon, 1st Kurdish state, God willing it will be followed by Rojava

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It looks like Kurdish leaders gave up with the kurdish city, Mandali?
is it a geografic problem there?
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Great Kurdistan map made on Goyzha mountain in Sulaimani

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