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[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan; Greater Kurdistan or all 4 parts individually
Topic Started: 21st November 2012 - 11:45 PM (329,417 Views)
ALAN
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^^YUP as always Kerkûk is located in all old Kurdish maps thus until there is 1 kurd left Kerkûk will not be left for iraqis to steal let them go get their Ahwaz province back from iran
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Mehmet2121
7th February 2014 - 08:59 AM
Yes that map is correct for Rojava

Kurdistan in Treaty of Sevres
What bothers me is that there's no Kurds in rojhelat according to this map.
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chivaz serko
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RawandKurdistani
7th February 2014 - 05:00 PM
Mehmet2121
7th February 2014 - 08:59 AM
Yes that map is correct for Rojava

Kurdistan in Treaty of Sevres
What bothers me is that there's no Kurds in rojhelat according to this map.
if they promised us this map, than there would of been a Kurdish state in rojhelat too, the soviets would of still made a republic of mahabad, and the Kurdish states part of NK and SK would of fully backed the republic of mahabad, which would of made it impossible for the Persians to conquer it, and today rojava would of been fully liberated too since it was bigger back then it and includes urfa, mardin and other Kurdish cities.
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RawandKurdistani
7th February 2014 - 05:00 PM
Mehmet2121
7th February 2014 - 08:59 AM
Yes that map is correct for Rojava

Kurdistan in Treaty of Sevres
What bothers me is that there's no Kurds in rojhelat according to this map.
Would of liked it if we were part of Armenian to the condition now
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chivaz serko
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we wouldn't of been part of Armenia because back then there was little to no kurds living In the Armenia of 100 years ago. about half of NK isn't historically Kurdish, it was historically Armenian, EK should of been the largest Kurdish part of Kurdistan. but we did benefit from the Armenian genocide(not that I support it), kurds took over Armenian towns and villages after they were wiped out by turkey and Kurdish tribes loyal to turkey
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chivaz serko
7th February 2014 - 10:02 PM
we wouldn't of been part of Armenia because back then there was little to no kurds living In the Armenia of 100 years ago. about half of NK isn't historically Kurdish, it was historically Armenian, EK should of been the largest Kurdish part of Kurdistan. but we did benefit from the Armenian genocide(not that I support it), kurds took over Armenian towns and villages after they were wiped out by turkey and Kurdish tribes loyal to turkey

please heval, dont spread armenian propaganda lies. even before armenian genocide muslims (mostly kurds) were mayority in so called greater armenia. look at this demographic map

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im not spreading Armenian propaganda lies, I only say the truth. but fine maybe half of NK wasn't Armenian a hundred years ago but al least 1/3 was. there were small Kurdish villages inside greater Armenian territory too, plus that map is bullshit. I know for a fact there was little to no turks in Izmir, it was mostly greek, so it should of been way more Christians, and Van was the headquarter of Armenian groups, it was majority Armenian a century ago
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Şirnex
7th February 2014 - 10:32 PM
chivaz serko
7th February 2014 - 10:02 PM
we wouldn't of been part of Armenia because back then there was little to no kurds living In the Armenia of 100 years ago. about half of NK isn't historically Kurdish, it was historically Armenian, EK should of been the largest Kurdish part of Kurdistan. but we did benefit from the Armenian genocide(not that I support it), kurds took over Armenian towns and villages after they were wiped out by turkey and Kurdish tribes loyal to turkey
please heval, dont spread armenian propaganda lies. even before armenian genocide muslims (mostly kurds) were mayority in so called greater armenia. look at this demographic map


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Really good proof heval sirnex , thanks! Now i can answer the armenians claiming that kurdish cities are armenian :D
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Zinar
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Armenians got no right to claim kurdish land when they where minority in the cities they claim to be ''western armenia''. Source Sirnex map :yes:
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Zinar
8th February 2014 - 06:50 AM
Armenians got no right to claim kurdish land when they where minority in the cities they claim to be ''western armenia''. Source Sirnex map :yes:
exactly. of course some greater cities had christian mayority, but thats only because of the policiy of byzantin empire and Crusader states who killed and displaced non-christians. after that turks and mongols destroyed our country and brought nomadic life into kurdish society.

but its fact that rural areas always had kurdish mayority. and kep in mind, not all christians were armenian in the past. many christians were kurds and became suryoyo, armenian or muslims.

this man for example was a commander of byzantin empire with kurdish origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophobos

dont belive armenian lies. they have a strong lobby in western countrys, especially in france and USA
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chivaz serko
8th February 2014 - 12:01 AM
im not spreading Armenian propaganda lies, I only say the truth. but fine maybe half of NK wasn't Armenian a hundred years ago but al least 1/3 was. there were small Kurdish villages inside greater Armenian territory too, plus that map is bullshit. I know for a fact there was little to no turks in Izmir, it was mostly greek, so it should of been way more Christians, and Van was the headquarter of Armenian groups, it was majority Armenian a century ago
that map shows the result of a cencus in ottoman vialets before the genocide happened. rural areas included. kurds were mayroity. armenian nationalists are liars
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but how come 1.5 million Armenians died, I doubt there was even 2 million kurds living in NK a century ago. or I could be wrong
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The expansions of the Median empire
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Coming soon....
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North Kurdistan blue all Kurdish, black turkified Kurds, red arab settlers
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Come to think of it great KURDISTAN isn't that easy it has to be a Confederation of 4 Kurdish parts but since NK WK uses tricolor while SK EK uses Ala Rangin thus it could eventually become 2 conferedations

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ALAN
4th April 2014 - 05:50 PM
Come to think of it great KURDISTAN isn't that easy it has to be a Confederation of 4 Kurdish parts but since NK WK uses tricolor while SK EK uses Ala Rangin thus it could eventually become 2 conferedations

NWKFKF
Perhaps we don't need to have a divided country, surely we should be able to unify our lands in a peaceful manner. Remember the Medes were forced to live under Assyrian oppression for over 200 years, and they only managed to defeat the Assyrians and rise into a military powerhouse through the strength of unity.
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It's not as easy as that unfortunately so a confederation with one other is the solution but EK won't be freed from occupation unless Israel attacks Iran, awish xwa azane
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ALAN
4th April 2014 - 06:37 PM
but EK won't be freed from occupation unless Israel attacks Iran, awish xwa azane
There are many ways for Iran to fall, we musn't give up that easily. None will ever attack Iran, not the U.S. and not Israel either, we have to take up that challenge alone. However we must also remember that this government isn't like Ankara, the Persians don't have a habit for supporting them. We may be able to get large parts of the Persian population on our side, a lot like how the Sunnis are raising Ala rengin hahaThe truth is that we Kurds are the only armed force in Iran (along with those Mujahaddin f*cks that nobody give a sh*t about) therefore we are needed to take down this oppressive government.
This is an interesting article, although it's a few years old, the situation is just about the same, there is a bit of Persian propaganda in there, but it's an interesting read nonetheless: http://iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/reza-pahlavi-american-invasion-iran-and-federalism-critique-dr-ramin-kamran-s.html

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ALAN
4th April 2014 - 05:50 PM
Come to think of it great KURDISTAN isn't that easy it has to be a Confederation of 4 Kurdish parts but since NK WK uses tricolor while SK EK uses Ala Rangin thus it could eventually become 2 conferedations

NWKFKF
I think we will never divide kurdistan into 2 diffrent parts because of flags, if all parts of kurdistan are free and we choose to divide (which i hope we dont and im pretty sure we wont) It would be because of the language.
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RawandKurdistani
4th April 2014 - 09:22 PM
ALAN
4th April 2014 - 06:37 PM
but EK won't be freed from occupation unless Israel attacks Iran, awish xwa azane
There are many ways for Iran to fall, we musn't give up that easily. None will ever attack Iran, not the U.S. and not Israel either, we have to take up that challenge alone. However we must also remember that this government isn't like Ankara, the Persians don't have a habit for supporting them. We may be able to get large parts of the Persian population on our side, a lot like how the Sunnis are raising Ala rengin hahaThe truth is that we Kurds are the only armed force in Iran (along with those Mujahaddin f*cks that nobody give a sh*t about) therefore we are needed to take down this oppressive government.
This is an interesting article, although it's a few years old, the situation is just about the same, there is a bit of Persian propaganda in there, but it's an interesting read nonetheless: http://iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/reza-pahlavi-american-invasion-iran-and-federalism-critique-dr-ramin-kamran-s.html

Good read thanks.


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is that Kurdistan Tv reporter? hahahah
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Dalaho
5th April 2014 - 05:37 AM
is that Kurdistan Tv reporter? hahahah
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a business fair in hewler
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