[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan

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[ti]BA[/ti]Maps of Kurdistan; Greater Kurdistan or all 4 parts individually
Topic Started: 21st November 2012 - 11:45 PM (371,681 Views)
Tesseract	5th October 2013 - 06:36 AM Post #226
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	jjmuneer 5th October 2013 - 06:27 AM To be honest the linguistic map isn't accurate. Again it keeps saying Ilam is mixed, Ilam is actually probably one of the most homogenous of the provinces in EK. There is only a very very small Persian population, who are usually gaurds or students. And if you go to Ilam or South EK, no one views themselves as Lor or Lak, either Feyli/Kurd or your tribe name. And frankly Lak has more linguistic connations more than anything. Well it is a linguistic map, and not necessarily how people identify ethnically. It shows all of Ilam province either Kurdish or Kurdish-Persian mixed. What about Lurs of Luristan province, do they identify as Persian?



jjmuneer	5th October 2013 - 06:42 AM Post #227
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	Tesseract 5th October 2013 - 06:36 AM jjmuneer 5th October 2013 - 06:27 AM To be honest the linguistic map isn't accurate. Again it keeps saying Ilam is mixed, Ilam is actually probably one of the most homogenous of the provinces in EK. There is only a very very small Persian population, who are usually gaurds or students. And if you go to Ilam or South EK, no one views themselves as Lor or Lak, either Feyli/Kurd or your tribe name. And frankly Lak has more linguistic connations more than anything. Well it is a linguistic map, and not necessarily how people identify ethnically. It shows all of Ilam province either Kurdish or Kurdish-Persian mixed. What about Lurs of Luristan province, do they identify as Persian? Ask yourself this, who made that map? I can tell you it was no Kurd or international body. Just look at where the areas are "mixed". If you actually look those areas are populated by Arkwazis, Kordalis and Ali Shirwanis, and also other Kurdish feyli tribes. I can tell you none of us identify as Persian. Lets say half of Lorestan is Lor, by Lor I mean the Lors who are still identify as Kurdish. The rest are all Persians.



Tesseract	5th October 2013 - 06:54 AM Post #228
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	^This map is unfortunately widely used, and is on the "Religion in Iran" wiki page. Edited by Tesseract, 11th October 2013 - 05:25 PM.



jjmuneer	5th October 2013 - 06:54 AM Post #229
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	^That map again shows "Lor" as seperate ethnicity.



Tesseract	5th October 2013 - 06:58 AM Post #230
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	jjmuneer 5th October 2013 - 06:54 AM ^That map again shows "Lor" as seperate ethnicity. Yeah, precisely why its so retarded. The Izady maps at least show most of Ilam province as Kurdish. Edited by Tesseract, 11th October 2013 - 05:25 PM.



ALAN	5th October 2013 - 10:15 PM Post #231
Posts: 34,737 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	You gotta get yourself one of these from news agencies in SK Mine Attached to this post: image.jpg (2 MB)



ALAN	5th October 2013 - 10:22 PM Post #232
Posts: 34,737 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	Well do we ever hear Lors say they are Kurds? We have to ask them that, me and my bro in law did in EK we asked a Lor he said they are persians my bro in law told him you are persionazied Kurd he just shook his head



RawandKurdistani	6th October 2013 - 12:11 AM Post #233
Surchi/Xoshnawi Posts: 4,646 Group: Senior Members Member #3 Joined: Nov 17, 2012 Mood None	ALAN 5th October 2013 - 10:22 PM Well do we ever hear Lors say they are Kurds? We have to ask them that, me and my bro in law did in EK we asked a Lor he said they are persians my bro in law told him you are persionazied Kurd he just shook his head But how often did you hear a Lor from Ilam (or the other regions claimed by JJmuneer) ever claim this nonsense? Most of these Pro-Persians are the Bakhtiaris.



Halo	6th October 2013 - 12:15 AM Post #234
Têkoşer Posts: 5,872 Group: Elite Member #36 Joined: Jan 9, 2013 Mood None	ALAN 5th October 2013 - 10:15 PM You gotta get yourself one of these from news agencies in SK Mine I also have that one, bought it many years ago in a Newroz celebration



jjmuneer	6th October 2013 - 09:54 PM Post #235
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	ALAN 5th October 2013 - 10:22 PM Well do we ever hear Lors say they are Kurds? We have to ask them that, me and my bro in law did in EK we asked a Lor he said they are persians my bro in law told him you are persionazied Kurd he just shook his head Heval that isn't a "Lor". That is a Bahktairi. Ask him where he is from? If he says Khuzistan or Fars, then yeh his a Bakhtairis. Bakhtairis are meant to be Persianized Kurds, and they became Persianized after they seperated from the Feyli Kurdish confederacy, but sadly Persians have a stranglehold on historical documents. That is why atleast with states like Baban or Soran you still get historical documents on them and facts.



jjmuneer	6th October 2013 - 09:55 PM Post #236
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	RawandKurdistani 6th October 2013 - 12:11 AM ALAN 5th October 2013 - 10:22 PM Well do we ever hear Lors say they are Kurds? We have to ask them that, me and my bro in law did in EK we asked a Lor he said they are persians my bro in law told him you are persionazied Kurd he just shook his head But how often did you hear a Lor from Ilam (or the other regions claimed by JJmuneer) ever claim this nonsense? Most of these Pro-Persians are the Bakhtiaris. Saying you're a Lor in Ilam is abit like saying your a Ali shirwani or Kordali, it doesn't really matter, because its just a tribe. If a Persian tells you that Lors are Persians, ask them to show you a document or any evidence that they are and dating from when they were known as Persians?.



ALAN	7th October 2013 - 12:50 AM Post #237
Posts: 34,737 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	Thanks for the input jj



jjmuneer	7th October 2013 - 12:53 AM Post #238
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	ALAN 7th October 2013 - 12:50 AM Thanks for the input jj Well just ask him if you see him next time.



Ali Alqosh	7th October 2013 - 01:53 AM Post #239
Posts: 2,198 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Diako 25th July 2013 - 04:40 AM Historically Halab (aleppo) has been a kurdish city along with Iskendurun (hatay province). Adana is kurdish in origin but turks are majority now. They still belong to us and we need Atakya and Hatay they are major strategical points especially for trade and tourism, we need to offer some kind of beach resorts. The reason why its Arab majority in Hatay because they are all Alawis, the same as Alevis. They just speak arabic the only difference. Even gentically they are very similar to kurds (syrians alawis) edit: HOLD ON we cannot trust online sources because the turks make everyone turks and seem to make themselves the majority everywhere.... from what i remember my mother told me that when she was in adana it was kurdish majority with alot of arabs. Alawis and elewitis are not the same... im elewiti kurd and yezidism and yarsanism are connected to us and the othef way. The name of our religion is yazdanism! And it has 3 parts elêwiti, yarsani and yezidism!



Tesseract	7th October 2013 - 01:58 AM Post #240
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	Yeah, Alawites and Alevis are of different origins. It's a misconception that they're the same people.



Ali Alqosh	7th October 2013 - 05:16 PM Post #241
Posts: 2,198 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Tesseract 7th October 2013 - 01:58 AM Yeah, Alawites and Alevis are of different origins. It's a misconception that they're the same people. Allevism and cemevi like the turks say are fake the religion did not exist 30 years ago...



Ali Alqosh	7th October 2013 - 05:18 PM Post #242
Posts: 2,198 Group: Elite Member #250 Joined: Sep 22, 2013 Mood None	Gundî Uçar 7th October 2013 - 05:16 PM Tesseract 7th October 2013 - 01:58 AM Yeah, Alawites and Alevis are of different origins. It's a misconception that they're the same people. Allevism and cemevi like the turks say are fake the religion did not exist 30 years ago... I mean the fake allevism with the cemevi... real allevis has ezisted for over 2000 -3000 years!



ALAN	8th October 2013 - 03:15 PM Post #243
Posts: 34,737 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	What about this one? Attached to this post: image.jpg (46.51 KB)



Tesseract	14th October 2013 - 03:31 AM Post #244
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	New Mid East map: Attached to this post: rcOWxTm.jpg (307.28 KB)



Kurdistano	14th October 2013 - 09:22 AM Post #245
Posts: 3,156 Group: Elite Member #12 Joined: Dec 3, 2012	minus the Azeri extension into the South. As I said, Iranian Azeris are often more Persian than Persians themselves. If anything Azeris from Tabriz in the East Azerbaijan province show some sign of pseudo Turkic nationalism. Also were is the Allawite country and why "greater Lebanon". Edited by Kurdistano, 14th October 2013 - 09:40 AM.



Tesseract	14th October 2013 - 07:38 PM Post #246
Posts: 150 Group: Senior Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 8, 2013	Kurdistano 14th October 2013 - 09:22 AM minus the Azeri extension into the South. As I said, Iranian Azeris are often more Persian than Persians themselves. If anything Azeris from Tabriz in the East Azerbaijan province show some sign of pseudo Turkic nationalism. Yeah it's unlikely Azerbaijan would break off from Iran. Quote: Also were is the Allawite country and why "greater Lebanon". The Syrian coast is very heterogeneous, like Lebanon, so I thought of joining it to Lebanon much like what you see in this map: But maybe an Alawite state is more likely, I don't know. Take the map with a grain of salt really I just made it for fun. Edited by Tesseract, 14th October 2013 - 08:06 PM.



ALAN	23rd October 2013 - 08:05 PM Post #247
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Serhildan	24th October 2013 - 12:09 AM Post #248
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jjmuneer	24th October 2013 - 12:12 AM Post #249
Posts: 2,196 Group: Elite Member #158 Joined: May 30, 2013 Mood None	ALAN 23rd October 2013 - 08:05 PM That isn't a good thing heval, we are under Ottoman rule.



ALAN	24th October 2013 - 12:50 AM Post #250
Posts: 34,737 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: Nov 16, 2012 Mood None	I know but the big KURDISTAN is there which is denied by turds today



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