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[ti]SW[/ti]Kurdistan Airforce; Hêzên Asîmanî - Hêzî Hewayî
Topic Started: 3rd June 2015 - 01:18 AM (86,352 Views)
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6th October 2015 - 02:35 PM
Looks like DT has its own ones, so far ive seen 2x in their hands

Hi Alan, I think they are one and the same "Our professional kurdish counter-terrorism unit from Sulaimani security." says the 7 Group Facebook page.
Tiger 01 and Tiger 02 have been seen and photographed. More are know to heva been delivered (or on the way). At least two, very recently.
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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You know too lil my friend, does it produce money for the corrupt officials? No, thus none will be built and in KRG not even KRG has money all the senior officials and Masul have the money including the oil fields they have been distributed among the corrupt leaders of PDK and PUK.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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I read an article that Harir airbase is been prepared for something big....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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21st October 2015 - 07:24 PM
I read an article that Harir airbase is been prepared for something big....
Do you have a link??
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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It was Kurdish can you read it!? Google doesn't have translate for Kurdish yet I'll look for it.
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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(This is an excellent article and should clear up any misunderstandings on the use and utility of light aircraft for combat use)

Combat use of trainers From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Austrian PC-7 in COIN configuration

In smaller air forces basic trainers, in addition to being used for training, are used as counter insurgency, airborne FAC and in the light strike/COIN role.

Most advanced trainers are capable of carrying and delivering war loads. However most of these aircraft do not have the counter measures and sensors to survive alone in a modern high intensity war fighting scenario, for example being vulnerable to MANPADs. However they may still have a war fighting role in low intensity theatres, and if they operate in conjunction with more capable aircraft.

Historically many jet trainers were marketed with specialised attack variants e.g. the BAC Jet Provost/BAC Strikemaster and the Cessna T-37 Tweet/A-37 Dragonfly. Especially against opponents operating without a fighter screen or an effective anti-aircraft capability, such trainer derived attack aircraft could perform adequately. For example, Impala aircraft derived from the Aermacchi MB-326 trainer formed the main strike strength of the South African Air Force in its Bush war,[10] and aircraft such as the Hongdu JL-8 are being acquired for the attack role in low intensity theatres.[11][12]

Despite their vulnerability even small numbers of combat-equipped trainer aircraft in low-intensity theatres can have a disproportionate effect due to the surprise and shock of coming under air attack, especially when the attacked side believes itself to have a monopoly on air power.[13] Forces that have used light trainer aircraft to great effect include the Biafran use of MFI-9s[14] and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam use of covertly acquired light aircraft.[15]

In high-intensity conflicts, advanced trainer type aircraft can have a military utility if they operate within a framework of other assets. For example, the German and French Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jets had anti-shipping and light strike roles operating under an air umbrella provided by other aircraft, while the RAF planned to use pairs of gun- and AIM-9 Sidewinder-armed Hawk trainers in the point defence role. Each pair of Hawks was to be teamed with a Phantom FGR.2, in effect using the Phantoms as an Airborne Early Warning and Control system. Although never tested it was believed that the Hawk, combined with AIM-9L and flown by some of the best pilots in the RAF including those from the Red Arrows, would have made a viable air defence fighter.[16]

The future

As the capabilities of front line aircraft have increased this has been reflected in increasingly sophisticated advanced trainers. As the costs of developing new aircraft have risen in real terms, it has become more likely that fewer aircraft will be designed specifically for the training role. The advanced trainer was often seen as a stepping stone by most nations in developing a fast jet design and manufacturing capability. With increasing costs, even major air forces will have difficulty reaching the economies of scale to justify development of new advanced trainers. Nations will be required to continue to push the modernisation of existing aircraft (some such as the Hawk dating from the 1970s)[17] or co-operate in the development and procurement of advanced training aircraft. Furthermore, they must better utilise funding available by developing aircraft with an enhanced combat capability by producing operational single seat variants, and better utilise aircraft on inventory incorporating operational systems either within the aircraft or as external pods.[18]

The trend of programmable electronic systems and datalinks is likely to continue with the possibility that ground based radar systems and processing systems will allow advanced training aircraft to function as if they truly had onboard radar systems, with the cockpit closely replicating the look and feel of an air forces more capable aircraft for maximum familiarity.[19] Programmable engine management and fly-by-wire flight control systems will allow an aircraft to mimic the flight characteristics of frontline aircraft[20] with actual performance being restricted to a pilot's level of ability, with more power and greater agility becoming available as a pilot's skill improves.

Training is now also carried out on ground-based simulators.[21]

Historical

Classic training types were the De Havilland Tiger Moth, the North American Texan (Harvard in many countries) and the De Havilland Chipmunk.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trainer_(aircraft)#Combat_use_of_trainers
Edited by Jim M, 8th November 2015 - 12:52 PM.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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(I came across this today. It doesn't say where these are available to buy but you would just have to watch the market when they come up for sale.)

23 Military Designed Aircraft The Rich Enough Civilian Can Legally Own!

8.Northrop F-5 ‘Freedom Fighter’

The F-5 is yet another early Northrop creation. Surprisingly this plane, which was first introduced in the 1960’s, is still in service today. Aside from the US Navy, this plane is also being used by both the Chinese (Taiwan) and (South) Korean militaries as lightweight fighter. (Not to mention many other small countries air forces.)

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If you’re looking to call this bad boy your own, be ready to fork over about $1,750,000. (They would have to be shipped to Israel and they would rebuild them to mi-spec and install the latest avionics and weapons upgrades.)

http://americaloveshorsepower.com/23-military-aircraft-civilians-can-legally-own/17/


1.Mikoyan MiG – 29 (But if the KRG could get hold of these. wow!!)

These Russian made beasts were first introduced to the world in July of 1983. Since that time they have become an international favorite ending up in places such as India, Cuba, Egypt, Poland and even the United States! (According to German pilots who flew these and US types like the F16, F15 and the F18 after German re-unification the Mig29 was superior in many ways and still formidable today with the right upgrades.)

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Capable of ranges just shy of 900 miles and speeds faster than 1500MPH these jets cost an average of $30,000,000 for the military version. Decommissioned MiG-29’s are often significantly cheaper coming in at an average of $5,000,000 on the civilian market. (If you purchased the civilian version of these I don't know that Israel would be the place to go to bring this back to mil-spec. You would probably have to go to an ex Soviet state like the Ukraine.)
Edited by Jim M, 12th November 2015 - 04:25 PM.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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During Shingal op
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Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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(Quote: "unnamed customer (for the JF-17) at the (2015) Dubai airshow". (I had the thought when I first saw this that it might be the KRG.) This may be a completely fabricated claim as Pakistan’s military recently placed an order of 110 additional JF-17 aircraft from China, which calls into question the true export capacity of Islamabad’s aircraft industry.)

Need a Cheap Fighter Aircraft? The JF-17 Might Work

Dave Majumdar November 13, 2015

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The Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) and its and its partner, the Pakistan Aeronautical complex (PAC) Kamra, is once-again reiterating that it has signed a deal to sell the JF-17 Thunder to an unnamed customer at the Dubai airshow. Pakistan and China had previously made similar statements at the Paris airshow earlier in the year. China has geared the lightweight fighter—which is also known as the FC-1 Xiaolong—to aim for the low-end of the international fighter market.

“After several years’ co-development and marketing, China and Pakistan have signed a contract with third party customer for the purchase of JF-17 Thunder,” reads a statement released by AVIC. “As China and Pakistan improve their ability and skills in co-developing JF-17 Thunder, the aircraft is becoming a ‘Blue Ocean product’ with much market potentials as an ideal replacement for second-generation fighters in many countries’ air force.”

Though billed as a development partner, Pakistan—which co-produces part of the aircraft—was essentially the first and only customer for the Chinese jet—which is not operated by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The JF-17 is replacing a host of aging warplanes in Islamabad’s arsenal including the Chengdu F-7, Mirage III, Mirage V and the A-5 Fatan strike aircraft while complementing the Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon.

According to AVIC statement—Pakistani Air Vice Marshal Arshad Malik said that the Pakistani air force currently has sixty JF-17 fighters in its inventory. The service is planning to buy forty more jets in the future. Malik indicated that later model JF-17s will be upgraded with in-flight refueling capability, an advanced data link, more capable electronic warfare systems and a host of new precision-guided weapons in the future. Malik also said that a combat-capable trainer is expected to fly next year. Pakistan will buy the two-seat version of the jet.

The JF-17—especially the early Block 1 model—is a basic low-cost fighter aircraft. A Russian-made Klimov RD-93 engine producing roughly 19,000lbs of thrust powers the aircraft, which gives it a max speed of Mach 1.6. The airframe offers an eight G capability, which combined with the PL-9C high off-boresight missile gives the aircraft decent capability within visual range. It is equipped with the Chinese-built KLJ-7 radar—which is compatible with the PL-12 active radar-guided missile—which affords the jet beyond visual range capability. It also has

The improved Block 2 version of the jet is the version with in-flight refueling capability and improved avionics that Malik was referring to earlier. A third Block 3 variant is also under development allegedly with a Chinese-built active electronically scanned array radar, helmet-mounted cueing system, an infrared search and track system and a host of new weapons. The improved variant might also replace the Russian-made RD-93 with a Chinese Guizhou WS-13—assuming China manages to complete development of that engine.

The Chinese are developing the jet incrementally—upgrading the plane over time with new avionics and weapons—which is a smart move. But the JF-17 will never be a world beating fighter. It may not even be a good fighter—it’s designed for the low-end of the market. But it is designed to be “good enough” for nations that need decent capability that won’t break the bank. But the jet is in production after a relatively quick development cycle, it is being built in numbers and is more than competitive with its nearest potential adversary. In that respect, the program is a success, especially if China can find more buyers. AVIC anticipates a market for at least 300 JF-17 Thunder fighters.

Dave Majumdar is the defense editor for The National Interest. You can follow him on Twitter: @davemajumdar

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/need-cheap-fighter-aircraft-the-jf-17-might-work-14336
Edited by Jim M, 14th November 2015 - 09:02 AM.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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Pakistan wont sell us shit pro Erdogan...
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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14th November 2015 - 09:35 PM
Pakistan wont sell us shit pro Erdogan...
I suspect this not a very good aircraft. The Chinese who make it do not fly it and the only customer is Pakistan.

If the Kurds ever get aircraft I hope they get F5's or Kfir's. I think either one of those with Israeli upgrades would more than fulfil a front line role as an air superiority fighter or attack aircraft when needed.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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Have you seen an aircraft this beautiful before?
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Jim M
15th November 2015 - 10:10 AM
ALAN
14th November 2015 - 09:35 PM
Pakistan wont sell us shit pro Erdogan...
I suspect this not a very good aircraft. The Chinese who make it do not fly it and the only customer is Pakistan.

If the Kurds ever get aircraft I hope they get F5's or Kfir's. I think either one of those with Israeli upgrades would more than fulfil a front line role as an air superiority fighter or attack aircraft when needed.
Pakistan and China don't make good weapons systems. They perform bad compared to western and Russian counterparts.
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Leona
15th November 2015 - 12:17 PM
Jim M
15th November 2015 - 10:10 AM

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Pakistan and China don't make good weapons systems. They perform bad compared to western and Russian counterparts.
Pakistan does not make anything much that is any good.

China on the other hand makes excellent stuff. Just about everything that is purchased in the west now comes from China.

Their weapons may not be as good as the west but they are getting better and soon they will be just as good if not better.

The US military does not make the mistake of underestimating their enemies like many of us do.
Edited by Jim M, 20th November 2015 - 02:59 PM.
Kurdish Wisdom of War Proverbs:

"Deal with your friends as if they will become your enemies tomorrow, and deal with your
enemies as if they will become your friends tomorrow."

"Those away from the battlefield boast about their swords."

"Those who do not go to war roar like a lion."

"Everything is pardoned the brave."

"Whoever digs a pit for his enemy should dig it his own size."

"A thousand friends are too few; one enemy is one too many."
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UAE Eyes Moving Mirage Fighters to Iraq's Kurdish Areas, Procuring Rafales

January 23, 2016

DUBAI — The United Arab Emirates is awaiting final assurances from France and the Iraqi government to sell its fleet of Dassault Mirage 2000-9s before completing their deal for 60 Rafale fighters, Defense News has learned.
The UAE has been looking to sell its fleet of Mirage fighters to the Iraqi Air Force since 2011 and over the years discussions have faltered due to France blocking the deal, according to a UAE government official and a French source knowledgeable about the negotiations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The intended deal would see the UAE initially provide 10 aircraft to the Iraqi Air Force, with the funds paid directly to Dassault as part of the down payment for the UAE's Rafale deal.
The well-informed French source stated that in its efforts to reduce the costs of the deal and finalize the agreement the French government has waived military service fees involved in the contract reducing the overall cost by 10 percent.
"To facilitate the Rafale deal, the government has taken over the 'airco' cost of training, maintenance support and other military-provided services to reduce the cost for the UAE," he said.
The UAE source stated that the expected cost of each aircraft is expected to be around $250 million for a total cost of $15 billion.
According to the UAE source, the latest discussions on the deal for the Rafale was on Jan. 18 at the al-Bahr Palace in Abu Dhabi.
During a visit to Abu Dhabi this week, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said about the Rafale deal: "There are continuing talks, we are optimistic (French Defence Minister) Jean-Yves Le Drian and I ... things look positive."
"Agreements only become a reality after they are signed. However, we touched on this subject with the Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan when we met with him on Monday in Abu Dhabi," Fabius said.
The Iraqi Angle
The UAE is in discussions with Iraq's government to have the Mirages operate in Kurdistan, the UAE source stated.
"We want to provide these fighters to the Kurdish territories but the Iraqi central government has requested the provision of these fighters to them," the source said.
The source added that since September, Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari has made a number of visits to the UAE and held extensive discussions on the matter.
"The Iraqi government assured us that the Kurdish territories will be protected and we are awaiting the French decision now," he stated.
According to Wathaq al-Hashimi, director of the Iraqi Group for Strategic Studies, Iraq has presented its case to the UAE and is very keen to acquire the aircraft.
"The ball now is in the UAE's court, the Iraqi government wants the aircraft to be based in Al Balad Air Base and will be used in operations from Kurdistan to Al Faw in the south," Hashimi said.
In January 2015, the UAE offered up to 10 Mirage 2000-9s to the Iraqi Air Force, following a visit of Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to Abu Dhabi.
The same UAE source said at the time that the UAE is trying to fortify Iraq's security from north to south, specifically the areas from Baghdad to Hewlêr.
"Mainly, Hewlêr because many UAE strategic interests are there with regards to oil and gas investments as well as others," he said last year.
The UAE has 36 multirole Mirage 2000 fighters that have been in service since 1986, 30 of which have been extensively refurbished and then upgraded to the same standard as the newer fleet of 32 Mirage 2000-9s delivered starting in 2003 by France's Dassault Aviation.
The technologies and advanced capabilities that the Mirage 2000-9s incorporate include Dassault's "Rafale technology," with similar modular avionics, an LCD glass cockpit with full night-vision goggles compatibility, and advanced sensors and systems, according to the Bader 21 purchase agreement signed in 1998.
At the core of the Mirage 2000-9's navigation and attack system is a Thales- and Dassault-developed modular data-processing unit similar to the one used in the Rafale. This serves as the mission computer, manages the navigation and attack system, controls the cockpit display system and generates symbology for the head-up and head-down displays. As a result, the Mirage 2000-9 is claimed to enjoy a world-beating, highly intuitive man-machine interface.
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24th January 2016 - 06:42 PM

"The Iraqi government assured us that the Kurdish territories will be protected and we are awaiting the French decision now," he stated.
Yeah, we saw how the other weapons they promised would "protect the Kurdish territories" were used against us.
Hope KRG is doing everything in it's power to secure the positioning of the aircraft in Kurdistan. If not possible, they should do what they can to prevent the deal from going through. Baghdad will use the aircraft against us sooner or later.
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FulcrumKAF
24th January 2016 - 09:31 PM
Didyman
24th January 2016 - 06:42 PM

"The Iraqi government assured us that the Kurdish territories will be protected and we are awaiting the French decision now," he stated.
Yeah, we saw how the other weapons they promised would "protect the Kurdish territories" were used against us.
Hope KRG is doing everything in it's power to secure the positioning of the aircraft in Kurdistan. If not possible, they should do what they can to prevent the deal from going through. Baghdad will use the aircraft against us sooner or later.
I have been talking about the advantageous of increasing influence in the Sunni world a lot recently, something the KDP has been going, and this is just one of the advantagous.

I doubt the UAE will sell them to Iraq unless they are stationed in Kurdistan. Secterian divide in the region is increasing and the UAE most likely doesn't want to empower the Shia run Baghdad anymore than it allready has, if anything they want to counter balance Baghdad by empowering Hawler, however as they can not sell them to us directly they want to sell it to Iraq with the condition that they be stationed in Kurdistan.

If the deal goes through, technically the jets will be owned by Iraq, but, this means that we will be able to build the infastructure needed to house jets for the future.

I am not optimistic about this deal though.
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Can somebody give me a update about the air bases in Bashur?

- How many air bases does Bashur have and where is their location?

- Which airplanes can this bases host?

- How many new air bases are planned or under construction?

- Is any coalition or iraqi jet stationed in Bashur?
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Alanj it's JUST UAE that is pro KRG, Saudis and Qataris are pro turkey, while UAE isn't so much friends with turks....
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Also where is the source for this news?
Russian Girenak Joseph, who visited Kirkuk in Kurdistan as a part of his tour throu the 1870 - 1873 AD, who published the results of his trip & his studies later in 1879, in the 4th volume in the Bulletin of the Caucasus department of the Royal Geographical Russian Society estimated Kirkuk's population as many as 12-50,000 people, & he emphasized that except 40 Christian families, the rest of the population were Kurds. As for The Turkmen & Arabs, they have not been already existed at the time.
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Even the Taliban had its own fighter jets, it's time we got our own as well
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#PROMOTEWOMENRIGHTS They should be able to decide on their own whether they want to take the pill or want an abortion.
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Does anyone have the coordinates of this airfield in Dohuk for me, please?
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Didyman:

Its the empty square field.
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams

"If Turkey allows itself interfere in the matter of Kerkûk because of a few thousand Turkmen, we will do the same with regard to Diyarbakir (Amed) and other Kurdistani cities in Turkey because of 30 million Kurds." - President Masoud Barzanî
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