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| AK47 versus M16; to see which is the better rifle. | |
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| Topic Started: 11th February 2015 - 02:07 PM (4,321 Views) | |
| Jim M | 11th February 2015 - 02:07 PM Post #1 |
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This is interesting for all you guys (and girls) who think the M16 family of firearms that have been delivered to your troops is a world beater.
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| ALAN | 11th February 2015 - 03:14 PM Post #2 |
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I like the M4 and the HK36 |
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| Jim M | 11th February 2015 - 03:45 PM Post #3 |
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My personal opinion is that some versions of the AK 47 are the best assault rifle in the world. It is much more reliable due to its simplicity and more widely used so parts and ammunition is easier to come by. German weapons are great but if I had a choice to pick any that are available to the Peshmerga and use in the field I would still choose the AK 47. |
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| Frenchy | 12th February 2015 - 08:28 AM Post #4 |
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I second that, the AK in your environment is much more reliable. The German G36 is too much complicated and expensive, and its calibre is a joke. It has its use, but not on such battlefields. And let's forget the French FAMAS, it's horrible. I also agree for the M16, but it's a different matter if we speak of the M4 or HK. But in mountainous battlefields, the AK loose its advantage and I would rather have a Lee Enfield or K.98 (YPG at Sinjar had some). Such bolt action rifles (or even G3) remain amongst the best rifle in mountainous battlefields. |
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| Karker | 12th February 2015 - 08:33 AM Post #5 |
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AK-47 is obviously better, because it was made by a Communist! |
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| Frenchy | 12th February 2015 - 08:39 AM Post #6 |
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 or a Nazi... One of the German engineer in charge of developing the Stg.44 was later part of Kalachnikov developing team.Communism didn't stop Kalachnikov to die penniless... But all the money made with his gun wasn't lost for everybody...
Edited by Frenchy, 12th February 2015 - 08:40 AM.
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| Karker | 12th February 2015 - 08:46 AM Post #7 |
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on ne passe pas |
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| Frenchy | 12th February 2015 - 09:05 AM Post #8 |
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¡No pasarán! 
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| Jim M | 12th February 2015 - 09:56 AM Post #9 |
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Picking the best weapons has nothing to do with politics or nationality. But unfortunately in the real world and on an international level those factors are the only things that matter. |
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| Worldwar2boy | 12th February 2015 - 04:59 PM Post #10 |
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Weapons that look more modern are not necessarily better. The AK47 is, +/- 70 years after it was released, still one of the best assault rifles in the world. Peshmerga should upgrade to AK74 if possible, and just add upgrades to the rifle (scopes, grenade launchers, etc.). AK74 with grenade launcher & 60 round magazine: 
Edited by Worldwar2boy, 12th February 2015 - 04:59 PM.
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| Halo | 12th February 2015 - 11:32 PM Post #11 |
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but doesn't the M16 have a much longer range? |
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| Rizgaar | 13th February 2015 - 12:28 PM Post #12 |
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To imply or say that the ak47 is better would be a deceiving notion because not all the ak47's are the same. The Russian ones are pretty decent but they are very rare in Kurdistan. Most of what we have are Taiwanese, Egyptian, Yugo and romanian shizz |
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| Jim M | 13th February 2015 - 05:40 PM Post #13 |
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I did say that "some versions of the AK 47 are the best" and that being said I get tired of being misquoted. The AK-47 is an incredibly simple weapon. It has very few moving parts which makes it reliable. Yes, it absolutely will fire underwater, covered in sand, mud, dirt, you name it. So simple construction, and reliability make it a desirable weapon. This isn't the weapon of choice for third world countries for no reason. This simplicity allows it to be manufactured in a variety of sub standard manufacturing bases and even though these products may not be as good the robustness and availability of the weapon allows it to overcome many shortcomings. Also, because of its simplicity, AKs are cheap & easy to make. they're also very easy to use and maintain. even children (or anyone) can learn how to use and field strip an AK in 30mins. The bottom line is you do not want something high tech and complicated in a battlefield environment. You want something proven and tough that will work first time every time no matter what the conditions are. Fun fact: they use real AKs in the movie "Lord of War" instead of props, because it's cheaper.
Edited by Jim M, 16th February 2015 - 07:14 PM.
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| Jim M | 16th February 2015 - 02:07 PM Post #14 |
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Yes but the smaller mass of the 5.56mm round (as opposed to 7.62) makes it much more susceptible to wind and other factors making it less accurate. The newer versions of the AK47 the AK74 in 5.45mm suffer from the same problem. Breaking news article about the AK47. For the Kalashnikov, a profitable year (finally):
Edited by Jim M, 16th February 2015 - 04:23 PM.
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